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  1. canadyjd

    canadyjd Well-Known Member

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    Once again, please show the Michigan statute that makes forming alternative electors a crime?

    What these dem DA’s have done is stretch existing fraud statutes in an attempt to punish political opponents.

    It will play out in court and we will see where it ends. Dems should hope it ends without convictions because of a precedent is set to make political challenges to elections a crime, they may very well find themselves being charged in the future. They might just anyway.

    peace to you
     
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    He(Nixon) told a reporter at the time: "Our country cannot afford the agony of a constitutional crisis and I damn well will not be a party to creating one just to become president or anything else."
    Link for this story
     
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    These are the charges the false electors in Michigan face:

    • One count of Conspiracy to Commit Forgery, a 14-year felony,
    • Two counts of Forgery, a 14-year felony,
    • One count of Conspiracy to Commit Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
    • One count of Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
    • One count of Conspiracy to Commit Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony, and,
    • Two counts of Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony.
    The charges correspond with:

    MCL 750.248 (counterfeiting, forging or altering public record) as elector certificates are public records.

    MCL 166.933a (makes, files or publishes for any purpose under the Michigan Election Law with the intent to defraud is guilty of election law forgery).

    MCL 750.249 (any person who utters or publishes as true a false, counterfeit, altered or forged instrument or other writing listed in section 248 knowing it to be false, altered, forged or counterfeit . . .)

    MCL 750.158a (a person who conspires with 1 or more persons with the intent to fraud...)

    Applicable Michigan election law - MCL 168.41, MCL 168.47)

    IF a false electors certificate was made (it was in Michigan) then the law was violated.

    Had they just called themselves "electors", that might be hard to prove. But they had made certificates, and signed certificates, of the State of Michigan.

    Regardless, of legality it is election fraud and an attempt to steal an election through deception. Even if Trump had the votes it would be an attempt to steal an election. It was wrong. They need to go to jail.

    Now they blame Trump advisors (who recruited them and instructed them to prepare the certificates). But they should have known it was wrong.
     
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    Thanks for the info. We will see how the charges hold up in court.

    peace to you
     
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    They have nothing on Wall (Terri Lynn Land and Gerald Wall didn't sign the forged document).
     
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    Nothing about this post is true
     
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    Nothing about this post is true about the post that it referenced in saying that nothing about that post is true.
     
    #129 KenH, Aug 31, 2023
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    Is that really true???
     
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    You sound like a fundamentalist. LOL
     
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    Six hour warning
    This thread will be closed no sooner than:
    2100 GMT; 5 pm EDT; 2 pm PDT
     
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    Thankfully. Yay for Salty!!!!!!!
     
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    Nothing speicial
    It just had hit the zone of 130 posts
     
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    @Piper @Salty

    S-A-L-T-Y
    He don't need no alibi.
    It's Salty!
    It's Salty!

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