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Lippy Londoner fights off Jihadi terrorists

carpro

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Brave man...or had some liquid courage in his veins. Doesn't matter which. Still a brave act.

A good man like him with a gun would have put a stop to it all and probably not been hurt at all.

Except for their fists against guns, knives, vehicles and explosives, Londoners are helpless.

I feel sorry for them that their government has made them so helpless. Victims in waiting.
 

Covenanter

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Brave man...or had some liquid courage in his veins. Doesn't matter which. Still a brave act.

A good man like him with a gun would have put a stop to it all and probably not been hurt at all.

Except for their fists against guns, knives, vehicles and explosives, Londoners are helpless.

I feel sorry for them that their government has made them so helpless. Victims in waiting.
Yet, but
If guns were freely available, the terrorists would have them, and many more people would be killed.
 

InTheLight

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Yet, but
If guns were freely available, the terrorists would have them, and many more people would be killed.
Yes, but if jet airliners were freely available, the terrorists would have them, and many more people would be killed.

Oh, wait...

[a determined terrorist could get guns in England.]

Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.
 

TCassidy

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The criminals and terrorists already have guns. They don't obey gun control laws.

If England had not taken guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens this event may have been avoided altogether.

By the way, by taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens the English government has allowed a violent crime rate in England 5 times higher than in the US.
 

Matt Black

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Why use guns when vehicles and explosives kill far more people faster?

But you can't use a vehixle or explosives to defend yourself.
I was responding to your and TCassidy's assertion that the terrorists have guns. I think it's pretty plain that neither the Westminster Bridge attack, the Manchester bombing, or the London Bridge attacks involved guns - apart from those lawfully wielded by the police on Saturday night.
 

carpro

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I was responding to your and TCassidy's assertion that the terrorists have guns. I think it's pretty plain that neither the Westminster Bridge attack, the Manchester bombing, or the London Bridge attacks involved guns - apart from those lawfully wielded by the police on Saturday night.



Exactly, "apart from those lawfully wielded by the police". That tells the story. It took a man with a gun to stop the carnage.

A civilian with a gun could have done the same, and sooner. A cop is not always around when you need them.
 

Matt Black

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The goalposts of the discussion are being moved: the assertion was made by two posters earlier that the terrorists have guns, which has been demonstrated to be incorrect. Now the suggestion is made to make guns freely available, which is a different issue altogether, although it will result in said terrorists having guns in the future, which I don't think is dreadfully helpful...
 

carpro

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The goalposts of the discussion are being moved: the assertion was made by two posters earlier that the terrorists have guns, which has been demonstrated to be incorrect. Now the suggestion is made to make guns freely available, which is a different issue altogether, although it will result in said terrorists having guns in the future, which I don't think is dreadfully helpful...

Stop making things up. Nobody said these terrorists had guns. If the goalposts were moved, you, moved 'em..
 
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