Matt, for good or ill thanks to the refugees from the Potato Famine, the default American position is a Fenian one.
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London Goes All “Stop and Frisk”.
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On that basis, the 9/11 bombers were fighting American oppression, then.
Happy with that?
No, I am not happy about it, but I am intellectually honest enough to realize there may be some truth to it. At least truth from their perspective.
As the son of an Irish immigrant (my dad came to the US in 1924) I was taught quite early that all people have a natural right to independence, and that this right could only be won and maintained by the armed defense of liberty. And I have passed that basic truth to my children and they have passed it on to my grandchildren.
In their eyes, they were just that. In our eyes they were terrorists who needed to be killed.
Same with the IRA for us
When you kill civilians, you cross a line, whatever your cause is.
Exactly. Terrorism is war. It is to be looked at as war. In war, there is my side and the wrong side. In actuality, both sides share blame. It might be split 99% to 1%, but both sides share blame. Terrorism is an act of war. In my mind, all is fair in love and war. Fight to win or don't fight.
No. Armies are merely an arm of the civilian populous. You win wars by breaking the will of the populous to fight. As long as they desire to fight, they will continue to field an army. Defeating armies among the battlefield dies not win wars.
Lord Mountbatten--there was a man! Murdered by terrorists.
I am of the opinion that incident was the beginning of the downfall of the IRA.
Lord Louis was very well thought of, not just in Great Britain, but in most of the western world. And the atrocity of the act included the death of his 14 year old grandson, Nicholas, and a 15 year old boat boy, Paul Maxwell.
That pretty much ended the IRA.
Seemed to work in Germany in 1918 and 1945....
Deliberately targeting civilians is murder.
Is that why the RAF continually carpet bombed Berlin?
War is heck.
That was wrong, and Dresden was a war crime: it had no military value and was crammed with refugees.
Then both FDR and HST are war criminals?
I think we largely bombed Dresden not you
No, FDR was in on it.
Are you that ignorant of history? The RAF blatently targeted civilians. Ww2 took the war to the populous. Had WW1 broken the will of the people there would have been no WW2. WW2 was the conclusion of WW1.