London Goes All “Stop and Frisk”.

[church mouse guy]

....8 I'm not a member of the Labour Party, so your assertion is inaccurate Nope: firstly, I'm not 'hard-left' and disagree with Corbyn on some issue; I am more akin to a European-style Social Democrat with some Attlee-an 'Welfare Statism' thorwn in. Secondly, I am not anti-American, just largely in powerful disagreement with the proportion of the population who voted for the current POTUS

The only other alternative was the crooked Hillary Clinton, a congenital liar. Trump is not his past as a social liberal. He is an old man now. He is trying to save the West. If the UK wants to slide downward, then Eastern Europe does not. The UK cannot afford a welfare state and a welfare state will bankrupt the UK, as it has the USA, now saddled with a huge national debt.

Do you know Christopher Steele?

 

[Matt Black]

No. Who he?

 

[Covenanter]

The only other alternative was the crooked Hillary Clinton, a congenital liar. Trump is not his past as a social liberal. He is an old man now. He is trying to save the West. If the UK wants to slide downward, then Eastern Europe does not. The UK cannot afford a welfare state and a welfare state will bankrupt the UK, as it has the USA, now saddled with a huge national debt.

Do you know Christopher Steele?

We were aware of the ridiculous choice between Trump & Clinton. For those two evils to be the chosen contenders for the most powerful position in the world shows the absolute failure of the American system.

Surely there are honest statesmen in your political system who offer real policies that would attract a wide range of support.

 

[church mouse guy]

No. Who he?

He is the Brit who was involved with the Clintons in fabricating the obscene dossier on Trump.

 

[church mouse guy]

We were aware of the ridiculous choice between Trump & Clinton. For those two evils to be the chosen contenders for the most powerful position in the world shows the absolute failure of the American system.

Surely there are honest statesmen in your political system who offer real policies that would attract a wide range of support.

I did not vote for Trump in the primary in Indiana in May 2016, but the race was over by then. I voted for Cruz, who is a Baptist. Once the people chose Trump, I voted for him in the general election in November. In Indiana, Trump won the general election 2 to 1. Indiana is part of the rust belt, meaning that we have thousands of factories that are closed and our small towns and cities are very poor economically due to low wages and widespread unemployment. Under Obama, Hoosiers had eight bad years economically. It was the American heartland that voted for Trump.

 

[HankD]

Surely there are honest statesmen in your political system who offer real policies that would attract a wide range of support.

There were 17 individuals running against President Trump in the primaries.

It's not like he was a shoe-in.

However he beat them all and the nation chose him.

 

[Covenanter]

We were aware of the ridiculous choice between Trump & Clinton. For those two evils to be the chosen contenders for the most powerful position in the world shows the absolute failure of the American system.

Surely there are honest statesmen in your political system who offer real policies that would attract a wide range of support.

There were 17 individuals running against President Trump in the primaries.

It's not like he was a shoe-in.

However he beat them all and the nation chose him.

That doesn't answer my question

 

[HankD]

That doesn't answer my question

You asked about honest statesmen. Well if you really are that interested C of Trump vs. the 17 others then you can find the debates on the web.
Decide for yourself after you hear them.

Personally I don't think we have a surplus of honest politicians but only God sees the heart, so my answer is - I don't know.