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Looking to Daytona

Bob Alkire

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ccrobinson said:
Did anybody actually watch the race yesterday? Was it any good?

I was driving from Fl. up to Winston Salem, NC and listen to it on the radio, MRB, one of the good thing about the southeast, did not lose it anywhere. It was a walk away by a rather good race by the others.
 

ccrobinson

Active Member
Which one are you, from the time you started or from the time NASCAR started? Most of us is from the time we started.

Probably from the time I started watching regularly in 1991, but there are some things older than 91 that I think Nascar should be doing, such as racing at Darlington on Labor Day weekend.
 

Bob Alkire

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ccrobinson said:
Probably from the time I started watching regularly in 1991, but there are some things older than 91 that I think Nascar should be doing, such as racing at Darlington on Labor Day weekend.

Good answer and that is true of most folks today. When you and I say we are purist we might not be talking about the same thing.

As a kid in the 40's and early 50's I came to like baseball and couldn't read enough about it, learned its history same with football and the same with NASCAR, no that's not true, I lived most of it. My parents said if I would have worked at my class work as hard, all would have been fine.
 

swaimj

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I'm really looking forward to the race at Talledega this Sunday. With the new COT on the track, I expect this to be one of the wildest races in the history of NASCAR. There is no telling what effect it will have on the Chase. However, I expect the cream to rise to the top. Look for Jeff Gordon in victory lane.
 

PastorSBC1303

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swaimj said:
However, I expect the cream to rise to the top. Look for Jeff Gordon in victory lane.

That will be awful nice of Gordon to come to victory lane to offer congrats to Tony Stewart :thumbs:
 

swaimj

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That will be awful nice of Gordon to come to victory lane to offer congrats to Tony Stewart
I like your sense of humor. That can come in handy when you're a Stewart fan! :laugh:
 

ccrobinson

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That will be awful nice of Gordon to come to victory lane to offer congrats to Tony Stewart

That will be pretty cool to see Jeff congratulate Tony on finishing 2nd while they both congratulate Dale Jr on his glorious victory in his last restrictor plate race for DEI.
 

PastorSBC1303

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ccrobinson said:
That will be pretty cool to see Jeff congratulate Tony on finishing 2nd while they both congratulate Dale Jr on his glorious victory in his last restrictor plate race for DEI.

I would be good with this result as well.

Did I read or hear somewhere that in one of these final races Jr is going to have a black paint scheme in honor of his father and his final races with DEI?
 

swaimj

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I was a little disappointed in the COT today at Talledega. The race did not feature the number of lead changes that I thought the COT would produce. I'd say they need to tweak that car before they run the Daytona 500 with it.

Todays race was dominated by Toyotas and Dodges, whose engines seem to perform better at the higher RPMs they were running today. But at the end, those teams did not have the drivers who can close the deal.

And who is THE driver who can close the deal at the restrictor plate tracks? Jeff Gordon!!! What a move to win the race! He's the best!
 

ccrobinson

Active Member
The funniest thing about the race was when the guys in the booth went on about how strong the Dodge engines were. Less than 2 laps later, the 48, 24, 25 and 20 were passing the Dodges for the lead. :laugh:
 

Gayla

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I was referring back to the Commentators bragging on the Dodge Engines, then the Chevies took over.

Why they blew is a good question, too.
 

ccrobinson

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Hendrick Motorsports built the restrictor plate engines used in several cars, including the #24, #48 and #25. I don't know what other teams they build for. The #8, #1, #29 and #31 were built by a partnership of the RCR and DEI teams. I don't the specific technical reason why those engines died.

The ending of this season can't come fast enough to get Junior out of the #8 car.
 

PastorSBC1303

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ccr, towards the end of the race the commentators did say that DEI was running a particular type of engine whereas Hendrick and Gibbs was running a different type. They gave the names for em, but I cannot recall what they were, nor did I understand it. But I think that maybe what Gayla is referring to maybe...
 

ccrobinson

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Ahh, thanks for the info. I missed that, mostly because I try hard not to listen to the geniuses in the booth. When I do, I inevitably find myself saying the same thing over and over.

"Shut up, Rusty"
 

PastorSBC1303

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Daugherty is the one that makes me ughhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Atleast Rusty has been in the car and knows a little bit about the dynamics and stuff and once in awhile he will make a good point.

But with that said, I would like the whole broadcasting team to be scrapped. Bring back Mike Joy, DW and Larry Mac
 

ccrobinson

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I haven't heard much of anything insightful from Rusty. At Bristol, when they were on the pace lap, Rusty said, "I can't imagine what's going through the mind of these drivers." Um, Rusty? You're the only one in the booth who actually drove a race car in the Cup series. If there's anybody who should know what's going on with the drivers right before the green flag falls, it's you. That statement really tells us where Rusty is coming from.

He probably really doesn't know what they're thinking. He just got into a racecar and went fast without thinking about how or why he did certain things. He's one of those guys who had so much natural ability that he never had to learn how to communicate to people who don't know anything about how to drive a racecar. It makes Rusty a good driver (even if he was a weasel), but it makes him a terrible commentator.

From what I've been told, on NascarTV's Inside Nextel Cup Racing, Dave Despain was cracking jokes about draft lock. The best part was that Michael Waltrip, Ken Schrader and Greg Biffle all had a hilarious deer-in-the-headlight look on their face when Despain asked about "draft lock".

I just hit the mute button when Daugherty speaks. He's completely worthless as a Nascar announcer. He doesn't bring anything to the telecast because he doesn't know anything about Nascar. I've given up trying to figure out why ESPN thought it would be a good idea to put him on the team.
 
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padredurand

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PastorSBC1303 said:
ccr, towards the end of the race the commentators did say that DEI was running a particular type of engine whereas Hendrick and Gibbs was running a different type. They gave the names for em, but I cannot recall what they were, nor did I understand it. But I think that maybe what Gayla is referring to maybe...

The DEI-Childress motor is based on the RO7- a race-only engine design. Gibbs and Hendrick shops were running the older production based SB2. The SB2 is a second generation of the original small block that dates back to the 1950s.

The engines are quite different. The RO7 has the distributor up front like a Ford. On the SB2, the fuel pump used to sit on the lower right front of the block run by a pushrod off the cam. The RO7 runs a cable off the back of the camshaft. I think Tony Stewart had one of those cables break a few races ago.

It has wider bore spacing (4.5 versus 4.4) for better coolant and oil circulation, six (rather than five) bolt cylinder heads and the cam is much higher in the block which shortens the length of the pushrods.

The next step is to improve the oil pan. It looks like the DEI-Childress shop has trouble keeping parts from blowing through their pans and dropping onto the track. :BangHead:
 
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