Make believe Eschatology

[37818]

To begin with, the phrase is "tribes of the land", not "Earth". This has a specific reference to the land of Judea.

What is the proof for that? The word in my Bible says "earth." The Sun and Moon implies of the whole "earth."
Matthew 24:30 At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

 

[Lodic]

The Apostle Paul included himself in the words "the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." In not being dead, and being charged. Himself and his audience.

Of course he did. The context makes it clear that all Christians will have a new resurrection body. The context of the Olivet Discourse makes it clear that only a limited amount of people would see the events described. It's not possible for everyone to see an event. Even your "futurist" viewpoint would still only allow "that generation" to see those events, not people living at any other time.

 

[37818]

Of course he did. The context makes it clear that all Christians will have a new resurrection body. The context of the Olivet Discourse makes it clear that only a limited amount of people would see the events described. It's not possible for everyone to see an event. Even your "futurist" viewpoint would still only allow "that generation" to see those events, not people living at any other time.

During the Apostle's lifetime. Taking it in the same way as Matthew 24:33.

 

[robycop3]

Proof, of what? That your interpretation is stupid as a Ford Corvette? I've much more important things to do than go on this merry go round with you. Educate yourself as so many others have. It was actually Phillip Mauro that first helped me escape the fiction that you're so steeped in.

OK, then, please show us **PROOF** that all those prophesied events have already occurred.
Tell us who the beast & false prophet were.
Tell us when all life in the Mediterranean Sea died.
Tell us when Jesus returned, seen by all.

 

[37818]

There are only 3 intellectually honest interpertations for 1 Corinthians 15:52 / Matthew 24:33.
1. A yet future event. [As I have understood over the last 50 years.]
2. A failed prophecy.
3. Full Preterist.

 

[Salty]

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[robycop3]

To repeat myself, yes, these events have all happened. I've proven it over and over, but you close your eyes to the evidence. Talk about opinion and guesswork, you don't have a shred of evidence, so you repeat the conjecture of "prophecy pundits".
Your "evidence" is guesswork.

The Beast was Nero / the Roman Empire.

I explained why Nero couldn't've been the beast. The beast will be the man of sin mentioned by Paul, and also his empire, as seen in Rev. 17.

The False Prophet was Apostate Israel.

Pure conjectuire. The FP will be a man, same as the beast. Both will be cast alive into hell when Jesus returns. That's a Scripture in Rev. 20 often overlooked (often deliberately) by prets.

The Mark of the Beast was not a literal mark, but described those who aligned themselves with the Roman Empire.

More horse feathers. The mark will be LITERAL,most likely some kinda computer chip.The Romaqn empite couldn't be received in the right hand or forehead. And the false prophet will have it issued, WORLDWIDE.

All life in the Mediterranean did not literally die. Again, this is hyperbole and symbolic language.[/quote
But it WILL; it simply hasn't yet happened.

Those in Jerusalem saw Christ's judgment come upon them in AD 70. His literal return is still in our future.

Half-right. They saw the culmination of the "days of vengeance" Jesus decreed against that generation of Jews.

The lengths you futurists will go to in order to defend your views, especially the way you twist prophecies to fit your views, is truly sad. For an otherwise very smart man, you've swallowed the futurist version of the "End Times" hook, line, and sinker.

I can say the same about preterists, only that version would be true. Again, your 'evidence' consists of mostly guesswork and twisting some Scriptures into "figurative/symbolic" status.

Again, I just sit back & laugh at all the preterists' tall tales & attempts to re-write Scripture and history.

 

[robycop3]

This thread will soon be closed, as it has 8 pages, so I'm gonna start a continuation in the "Other Christian denominations" sub-forum.


Fake Eschatology, continued from previous thread

 

[Iconoclast]

No, if He was thus seen, it has nothing to do with His return, which hasn't yet happened.

You still miss it.
Mt 24 is not speaking of His second coming.
You insist that is in view, ignoring bible teaching
From Daniel and the Psalms...before we even look at Mt.
The Jews in Mt 26 understood what Jesus said unlike you.

 

[37818]

Of course he did. The context makes it clear that all Christians will have a new resurrection body. The context of the Olivet Discourse makes it clear that only a limited amount of people would see the events described. It's not possible for everyone to see an event. Even your "futurist" viewpoint would still only allow "that generation" to see those events, not people living at any other time.

Based on the use of "ye" in Matthew 24:33 and the "we" in 1 Corinthians 15:52 it either happens at a yet future time or in the life time of the audience or it is a proven failed prophecy.

 

[Lodic]

Based on the use of "ye" in Matthew 24:33 and the "we" in 1 Corinthians 15:52 it either happens at a yet future time or in the life time of the audience or it is a proven failed prophecy.

Based on the use of "this generation" instead of "that generation", either the prophecies of the Olivet Discourse have come to pass or Jesus was wrong. The 1 Corinthians reference is "apples to oranges".

 

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