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Marine Leaves Because of Moral Reasons....

freeatlast

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Although I agree with you that the press is biased, especially against Christians--where were they when the 3-star general in charge of Defense Information Services Agency referenced God in his commander's call remarks? He got ripped to shreds in the military propaganda newspapers we call the "Army Times," "Air Force Times," etc. But where were all the biased non-military press articles?

So yeah, there are those that are being reported on, and there are those that aren't.

Why didn't you report it, are you ashamed of him and rather for him to be silent?
 

Don

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I think I'm on FAL's ignore list. :laugh:
I'm surprised that I'm apparently not....

--- Edited to add:
Come to think of it, I should probably put him on ignore, and see if I can stop taking my blood pressure meds....
 

Don

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It is you who always stand against those who stand loud for the Lord, now why is that?
Okay, since that's a personal attack on me, I'm now asking you to provide your proof of your accusation.

The very fact that I posted the information about a 3-star general mentioning God directly contradicts your statement that I'm "standing against" those who stand loud for the Lord. By posting it, I actually posted something that YOU weren't even aware of; and thus, I made it known publicly. Post #10 of this thread: I said "We're not putting this man down." I can come up with quite a few other proofs that directly contradict your false accusation.

So put up some proof, or apologize for making a false statement about me.
 

Don

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Don- Impossible to argue with logic like this. At least he didn't play the 'yo momma' card.
:rolleyes:
LOL

Why is it that every time I get into an exchange with FAL, I feel like we're standing around a merry-go-round or sandbox?
 

Arbo

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LOL

Why is it that every time I get into an exchange with FAL, I feel like we're standing around a merry-go-round or sandbox?

I think it is because you are debating a person who speaks before he thinks and is too proud to admit any error. Honestly.
 

freeatlast

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Okay, since that's a personal attack on me, I'm now asking you to provide your proof of your accusation.

The very fact that I posted the information about a 3-star general mentioning God directly contradicts your statement that I'm "standing against" those who stand loud for the Lord. By posting it, I actually posted something that YOU weren't even aware of; and thus, I made it known publicly. Post #10 of this thread: I said "We're not putting this man down." I can come up with quite a few other proofs that directly contradict your false accusation.

So put up some proof, or apologize for making a false statement about me.
The fact that you argue against those who do take a stand is the proof.
 

Don

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The fact that you argue against those who do take a stand is the proof.

The fact that you resort to such statements, instead of quoting or pointing to posts I have made, merely reinforces to all readers here that you cannot prove anything you're saying; or that you're just too lazy to do the work to actually prove your false accusations.

I'm praying for you, FAL.
 

OldRegular

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Many in DC, and around the country thought those in the service would not be bothered with the change in the "don't' ask, don't tell! law. Well, the following was an interesting quote from a Marine Gunnery Sargent Harry Berres, USMC, and I know another career soldier in the Army who is doing the same. :tear:

Do you know anyone who has left the military or is planning to leave the military over the morality of this new law? :thumbsup:

"When I joined the military it was illegal to be homosexual, then it became optional, and now it's legal. I'm getting out before Obama makes it mandatory." :tear:


SEE: http://www.militarytimes.com/forum/...-illegal-to-be-homosexual-then-it-became-quot

It is my personal opinion that the slaughter of 55,000,000 unborn children will bring God's judgment on this country. That judgment may well be accelerated/intensified by the widespread acceptance of homosexuality. Both are an abomination to God.

I say the following in part because of some comments I have read on this thread.

1. We had better hope that everyone who disagrees with Obama's policy does not leave the military; that would likely require reinstitution of the draft.

2. For all the naysayers and critics of those who do not follow the Sergeant: The military is not a democratic organization as anyone who has served can attest.

Sapper Woody as usual made a very reasoned comment!
 

freeatlast

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The fact that you resort to such statements, instead of quoting or pointing to posts I have made, merely reinforces to all readers here that you cannot prove anything you're saying; or that you're just too lazy to do the work to actually prove your false accusations.

I'm praying for you, FAL.

Thank you for the prayers. God bless
 

Salty

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Here is my question. When GySgt Harry Berres, USMC, gets out will he be ETS'ing or will he be retiring?

Its easy to say that when you will be getting a check once a month. And as a E-7 Berres probably does have his 20 years. Now if he has 18 or 19 years in - that would be a profound statement. ....

Still waiting for an answer...
 

saturneptune

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Well this man is being heard, no one else is.
If I recall, being deployed to isolated stations, there was always at least one Christian that constantly taught the Gospel. I was not a Christian at the time, and actually found it quite annoying. I do not remember one time when there was silence about the subject. Since I was there, I know. What about you, do you remember a period of silence over the matter? Oh thats right, you were not there.
 

billwald

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On the other hand, why would a "moral" person participate in killing non-combatant Afghan people? Would Jesus accept the excuse of "collateral damage?"
 

Don

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On the other hand, why would a "moral" person participate in killing non-combatant Afghan people? Would Jesus accept the excuse of "collateral damage?"
Your question is invalid because it presumes that the "moral person" is aware that the people he/she is engaging are non-combatants. If this was true, then the "moral person" is merely a murderer, and therefore not "moral."

If you've ever been in a fight, whether fisticuffs at the playground or bullets flying, then you engaged because they engaged you first; or you know or have been told that they're legitimate targets.

Unfortunately, the people who identify the targets are not always correct. And also unfortunately, we hope and pray that the people who are engaging the targets can make an on-scene determination as to the validity of the target...but they don't always get the time/opportunity to do so.
 

LadyEagle

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On the other hand, why would a "moral" person participate in killing non-combatant Afghan people? Would Jesus accept the excuse of "collateral damage?"

Since the non-combatants or combatants don't wear military uniforms to distinguish them, and rules of engagement have changed since WW2, and for the reasons stated above, your question is invalid.

In any war, there is collateral damage.

Now, back on topic, please.
 

righteousdude2

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Another Vet Steps Up to the Plate....

....and privately admits to me that he quit the military for the same reasons as this marine. I am not aware of ay studies being conducted on this issue, but if there were, I could almost guarantee that a large number of those exiting and retiring from military life are claiming the change in this law as one of the primary reasons they are leaving....:type:
 
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