Don,
First off My father is not a "pharisee" He is an "unbeliever" theres a difference in the mentality, I not once "justified" what He did, I honor marriage, you just want to prove fault and are not listening to what I'm saying, I'm drawing paralells here to simplify it. As for Proverbs 26:4-5 If I knew or pretended to know EVERYTHING in scripture I'd be knowing way more the the Appostle Paul even claimed to know, He saw in part also. But He knew Christ and what He knew of Him he desired to know more. So for me to sit and play Holy Spirit on YOUR questions things you have desired to learn and understand is not in me to do.
We all look into those things we are led to understand, Jesus showed the disciples as much as they were able to understand, so it is with all of us, God is not respector of persons. So for me to pretend I have your questions in my back pocket or all knowledge both perfect and complete is untrue.
As far as the Birth of Christ in one woman (Mary) I see the solid form in the gospels, meaning I completely believe that Christ was born of Mary who was under the law, but in that I also see Christ referring to His disciples as a Woman travailing to bring forth man. So I see Mary two fold. As Christ was born into the World through One woman so also is Christ IN US our hope of Glory, in this I see Christ being born in those who believe in Him. Paul labored desiring for Christ to be formed in them. Theres nothing unbiblical about that whatsoever. If you want to get more specific in this one lets start a new thread (since the closed topic warning has been issued) I'm equipped enough to dive into that one.
As Gods Sword in Zech is raised against His Shepherd so also was that sword to peirce Marys Soul for the sole purpose that it should reveal the thoughts of MANY. Here the Sword has a threefold purpose, in Christ, in Mary and in His Church (I see this as two or three witnesses).
As in Luke 7: 36-50 Like I have said, the gospels or Christ is the Substance or "Solid form" of the Old testament scriptures. God said He spoke through the prophets by multiplying visions using similitudes, your questions or complaints are not with me but with God who said it, I'm just defending what He said and how He said He chose to speak. I'm haven't dove into EVERYTHING, but I see beauty in the passage concerning Paul who said all were given over to disobedience that He might have "mercy upon them" and Paul (under the law where the power or strength of Sin is) set out to murder the church of God, when light from heaven changed His understanding He LOVED MUCH, He knew His unworthiness and His righteousness derived from the law lived to kill the Life of His Lord which he had no idea he was doing, He thought he was sincerely doing a service unto God. He was forgiven much and Paul loved much and He was an example of the long suffering of the Lord. So the law and its intended purpose has is seen in the example of Paul, who preached the "light" of the gospel.
As for the very simple two verse psalm offered, Christ is the Truth and because of Christ Gods mercy endures forever.
Jesus said (Luke 24:44)
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning ME.
So if you have a problem with the God speaking multiplying visions, using similitudes by the ministry of the prophets your not really arguing with me, I'm just believing what He said, concerning Luke Christ is the substance of the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms.
Paul not myself is the one who said these were a shadow not the reality of things, and if a "temple was built" it was regarded as a "mere copy" these were paterns.
In Him Kim
First off My father is not a "pharisee" He is an "unbeliever" theres a difference in the mentality, I not once "justified" what He did, I honor marriage, you just want to prove fault and are not listening to what I'm saying, I'm drawing paralells here to simplify it. As for Proverbs 26:4-5 If I knew or pretended to know EVERYTHING in scripture I'd be knowing way more the the Appostle Paul even claimed to know, He saw in part also. But He knew Christ and what He knew of Him he desired to know more. So for me to sit and play Holy Spirit on YOUR questions things you have desired to learn and understand is not in me to do.
We all look into those things we are led to understand, Jesus showed the disciples as much as they were able to understand, so it is with all of us, God is not respector of persons. So for me to pretend I have your questions in my back pocket or all knowledge both perfect and complete is untrue.
As far as the Birth of Christ in one woman (Mary) I see the solid form in the gospels, meaning I completely believe that Christ was born of Mary who was under the law, but in that I also see Christ referring to His disciples as a Woman travailing to bring forth man. So I see Mary two fold. As Christ was born into the World through One woman so also is Christ IN US our hope of Glory, in this I see Christ being born in those who believe in Him. Paul labored desiring for Christ to be formed in them. Theres nothing unbiblical about that whatsoever. If you want to get more specific in this one lets start a new thread (since the closed topic warning has been issued) I'm equipped enough to dive into that one.
As Gods Sword in Zech is raised against His Shepherd so also was that sword to peirce Marys Soul for the sole purpose that it should reveal the thoughts of MANY. Here the Sword has a threefold purpose, in Christ, in Mary and in His Church (I see this as two or three witnesses).
As in Luke 7: 36-50 Like I have said, the gospels or Christ is the Substance or "Solid form" of the Old testament scriptures. God said He spoke through the prophets by multiplying visions using similitudes, your questions or complaints are not with me but with God who said it, I'm just defending what He said and how He said He chose to speak. I'm haven't dove into EVERYTHING, but I see beauty in the passage concerning Paul who said all were given over to disobedience that He might have "mercy upon them" and Paul (under the law where the power or strength of Sin is) set out to murder the church of God, when light from heaven changed His understanding He LOVED MUCH, He knew His unworthiness and His righteousness derived from the law lived to kill the Life of His Lord which he had no idea he was doing, He thought he was sincerely doing a service unto God. He was forgiven much and Paul loved much and He was an example of the long suffering of the Lord. So the law and its intended purpose has is seen in the example of Paul, who preached the "light" of the gospel.
As for the very simple two verse psalm offered, Christ is the Truth and because of Christ Gods mercy endures forever.
Jesus said (Luke 24:44)
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning ME.
So if you have a problem with the God speaking multiplying visions, using similitudes by the ministry of the prophets your not really arguing with me, I'm just believing what He said, concerning Luke Christ is the substance of the law of Moses, the prophets and the psalms.
Paul not myself is the one who said these were a shadow not the reality of things, and if a "temple was built" it was regarded as a "mere copy" these were paterns.
In Him Kim