Originally posted by tinytim:
I like the chocolate...only if they made a chocolate armstrong bunny so I could bite it's head off!

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Originally posted by tinytim:
I like the chocolate...only if they made a chocolate armstrong bunny so I could bite it's head off!
It is my understanding that the celebrating Christmas on Dec 25 was a strategy of the church to overtake the pagan holiday, not to participate it. I think the same thing goes for Easter. Because the days are the same does not make them pagan.Originally posted by wopik:
the PAGAN holidays of Ishtar (Easter) and the "Saturnalia" (Christmas) are the holy Sabbaths of the apostate churh, the IMAGE of the Beast.
Very nice post. The "Mark of the Beast" should be understood in the manner in which the scripture tells us. We shouldn't try to connect verses in the Bible to try and prove a radical point (A point that frankly makes little sense historically or Biblically).Originally posted by Claudia_T:
It is a shame that some people equate Christmas and Easter with the Mark of the Beast, which only serves to confuse the issue.
The Mark of the Beast has to do with the keeping of the Commandments and more specifically the Sabbath.
The Christmas and Easter issues are really non-issues. Burdens God never placed upon anyone.
If someone wants to celebrate Easter and Christmas there isnt a thing wrong with that as long as they celebrate the birth and resurrection of Christ.
Satan seeks to drive to fanatacism and extremes in order that he can cause people to shun the true issues. If people try to mix in these things like Christmas, Easter, and old testament feast days (which we are in no way obligated to observe anymore) then he can cause their audience to turn a deaf ear. People who add on these other burdens make it 10 times more difficult for those of us who are trying to get people to understand what the Mark of the Beast is all about, unfortunately.
The 10 Commandments are the issue. They were never done away with at the cross, as some erroneously teach.
Claudia
That is pretty good!Originally posted by Claudia_T:
Revlation 14:
7: Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
12: Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God , and the faith of Jesus.
Mt:15:9: But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men .
Mk:7:7: Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men .
the sunday sabbath is the commandments of MEN
Never mentiones Christ the Creator's Seventh-day Sabbath - the memorial of His work as our Creator!Originally posted by Dustin:
Romans 14:5-6
Rom 14 NASB
5 One person regards one day above another, another regards every day (alike is inserted here by some translators). Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.
In this case - one person regards (esteems so as to observe) One day ABOVE another - while another brother regards (esteems so as to Observe) EVERY day.Darby vs 5
5One man esteems day more than day; another esteems every day [alike]. Let each be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Young’s Literal Trans vs 5
5One doth judge one day above another, and another doth judge every day [alike]; let each in his own mind be fully assured.
Some may observe ALL the Lev 23 annual feast days – or some may have chosen to honor only the 3 mandatory ones listed in Exodus 23. But after the end of all animal sacrifices (Heb 10) with the death of Christ. The shadows ceased to be mandatory. Paul points this out in general in Col 2 and then specifically for Passover in 1Cor 5 “Christ our Passover has been slain” 1Cor 5.Ex 23
Three National Feasts
14"Three times a year you shall celebrate a feast to Me.
15"You shall observe the Feast of Unleavened Bread; for seven days you are to eat unleavened bread, as I commanded you, at the appointed time in the month Abib, for in it you came out of Egypt And none shall appear before Me empty-handed.
16"Also you shall observe the Feast of the Harvest of the first fruits of your labors from what you sow in the field; also the Feast of the Ingathering (Booths) at the end of the year when you gather in the fruit of your labors from the field.
17"Three times a year all your males shall appear before the Lord GOD.
John Gill Commentary
Luke 2
Verse 41. Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year,.... Joseph was obliged to go three times a year, as were all the males in Israel, at the feasts of the passover, pentecost, and tabernacles, Deuteronomy 16:16. The first of these is expressed here, at the feast of the passover; but the women were not obliged to go up: for so it is said by the Jews {p}, twvr Myvn lv Nxop, "the passover of women is voluntary," or in their own power; they might go up to the feast, or not, as they pleased. It is indeed said of Hillell, who was now alive, that he obliged the women to the first, but not to a second passover: to which the Karaites object; the account they give is as follows {q}; "truly the women were obliged, by the school of Hillell, to the offering of the passover; but if they were hindered from the first passover, the second was in their power; that is, the thing depended upon their will and pleasure, whether they would offer or not, which may be justly wondered at; for why should they be obliged to the, first, and not the second? for behold, as to the obligation of the passover, there is no difference between the first passover, and the second, The sum of the matter is, our wise men, on whom be peace, have determined and say, that there is no obligation but to males, who are arrived to maturity." So that this was a voluntary thing in Mary; which discovers her piety and religion, and her great regard to the ordinances and appointments of God.
#1. Neither of these is the case of "observing NO day" - or "regarding NO day". (not withstanding the hopes of many today who might wish that such was the case).Deut 16:16
16"Three times in a year all your males shall appear before the LORD your God in the place which He chooses, at the Feast of Unleavened Bread and at the Feast of Weeks and at the Feast of Booths, and they shall not appear before the LORD empty-handed.
Amplified Bible vs 6NKJV vs 6
6He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
NASB vs 6
6He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.
Romans 14 holy days known to the Christian church
Adam Clark’s commentary
Chapter 14
In things indifferent, Christians should not condemn each other, 1. Particularly with respect to different kinds of food, 2-4. And the observation of certain days, 5,6. None of us should live unto himself, but unto Christ, who lived and died for us, 7-9. We must not judge each other; for all judgment belongs to God,
Verse 5. One man esteemeth one day above another
Perhaps the word ημεραν, day, is here taken for time, festival, and such like, in which sense it is frequently used. Reference is made here to the Jewish institutions, and especially their festivals; such as the passover, pentecost, feast of tabernacles, new moons, jubilee, Jew still thought these of moral obligation;.
Notice there is no "HE who does not observe a day - is not doing so For the Lord".Rom 14
6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.