Mass amnesty and more illegal immigration

[JonC]

How about country over party? People in this country seem to have cast that idea to the wayside.

The decision was country over party.

A $118 BILLION "boarder bill".

You know how much of that was for the boarder?

$20.23 Billion.

Why call it a "boarder bill" if only 17% of the funding actually goes to the boarder?


It was actually a Ukraine deal (as a little over 50%....as $60.1 Billion was to go to the Ukraine).


This is why I said that we need "clean bills".

You were even fooled into believing it a "boarder bill".

 

[KenH]

The decision was country over party.

A $118 BILLION "boarder bill".

You know how much of that was for the boarder?

$20.23 Billion.

Why call it a "boarder bill" if only 17% of the funding actually goes to the boarder?

Nowadays in the Congress a "clean" bill, on a single subject, is not the usual order of business.

 

[KenH]

The decision was country over party.

No, it wasn't. Weak-kneed Republicans gave in to Trump.

 

[JonC]

No, it wasn't. Weak-kneed Republicans gave in to Trump.

Sure it was.

Passing a $118 Billion "boarder bill" with only 17% of that going to the boarder is not good for the country.

You were fooled into believing it was a boarder bill.

It was more a Ukraine bill as it sent $60.1 billion (over 50% of the funding) to support Ukraine.


I'm not saying that we dint support Ukraine. But the money needs ti be honest.

As it is, you fell in line with the sherple and bought the "boarder bill" hook, line and sinker.

 

[KenH]

boarder bill.

It's "border", not "boarder".

 

[JonC]

@KenH

I should have given you an opportunity to explain.

How exactly woukd you justify passing a $118 billion border bill that provides only 17% of that ($20.23 billion) to securing the border?

 

[KenH]

You were fooled into believing it was a boarder bill.

I wasn't fooled into anything.

 

[KenH]

As it is, you fell in line with the sherple and bought the "boarder bill" hook, line and sinker.

I did no such thing on the "border" bill, nor did I fall in line with any political "sheeple".

 

[JonC]

It's "border", not "boarder".

Thanks.

It's still only 17% of a $118 billion bill going to border security.

 

[KenH]

How exactly woukd you justify passing a $118 billion border bill that provides only 17% of that ($20.23 billion) to securing the border?

It's still only 17% of a $118 billion bill going to border security.

The Congress has not addressed the issues at the border in around 40 years, and this was a golden opportunity to do so, as imperfect as it was.

 

[JonC]

I wasn't fooled into anything.

Good.

Then you can explain why you think a border bill that costs us $118 billion but only provides 17% of that ($20.23 billion) to secure the boarder is for the good of the nation.

 

[KenH]

Good.

Then you can explain why you think a border bill that costs us $118 billion but only provides 17% of that ($20.23 billion) to secure the boarder is for the good of the nation.

The Congress has not addressed the issues at the border in around 40 years, and this was a golden opportunity to do so, as imperfect as it was.

 

[JonC]

The Congress has not addressed the issues at the border in around 40 years, and this was a golden opportunity to do so, as imperfect as it was.

I disagree. I believe we should be much more fiscally conservative. We need to decrease the national debt.

A bill that costs us $118 billion but uses only $20.23 billion for its intended purpose is not good for the nation.

It is better to hope that a better deal can be reached after the election.

A $118 billion boarder bill that only provides 17% of that to securing the boarder is more than just "imperfect".

 

[JonC]

@KenH

Rejecting that border bill has already benefitted the nation.

If Trump wins we get a better boarder bill.

If Hartis wins she has returned to Trump's policy (including building a wall....which I don't think will work).

Had the bill passed we would have a huge expense for less boarder security.

 

[KenH]

It is better to hope that a better deal can be reached after the election.

Not likely. That's why missing that golden opportunity is so egregious.

I believe we should be much more fiscally conservative.

I think that it is vital that the next president work with the Congress to balance the budget, and stop increasing the national debt, during this upcoming four-year term in office.

A $118 billion boarder bill that only provides 17% of that to securing the boarder is more than just "imperfect".

I disagree. Of course, I am not sure that you and I agree on anything. Let's see. I think that the sun is hot. You?

 

[KenH]

Rejecting that border bill has already benefitted the nation.

No, it hasn't. Every day that goes by that the Congress does not address the border issues damages the nation.

If Trump wins we get a better boarder bill.

I doubt it. And I certainly hope that the one who fomented the riot at the Capitol on January 6, 2021, Donald Trump, loses in the general election and retires to Mar-a-Lago to live out his days.

 

[KenH]

Had the bill passed we would have a huge expense for less boarder security.

There would have been more border security.

 

[JonC]

No, it hasn't. Every day that goes by that the Congress does not address the border issues damages the nation.



I doubt it. And I certainly hope that the one who fomented the riot at the Capitol on January 6, 2021, Donald Trump, loses in the general election and retires to Mar-a-Lago to live out his days.

Sure it has.

It forced Harris to adopt Trump's border policy. And Trump would enact his border policy. So it's a win win.


But you are wrong about you not being a "sheeple". You prove this with your reply here.

There is no evidence Trump was behind the Jan 6 riot. He had requested police presence, which Pelosi rejected. Trump did tell them to march to the Capitol, but he also said "peacefully".

Trump's failure was not quickly denouncing the violence.

 

[KenH]

But you are wrong about you not being a "sheeple". You prove this with your reply here.

Whatever, Jon. Good night. It's getting towards bed time for me.

 

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