No but it helps.
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Matthew 5:17 - 18 - a closer look
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Why?
Not at all. They deny that the prophecy has been fulfilled.
Until the Eternal State men will be governed by the Word of God as given us in Holy Scripture, whether they embrace it or not.
God bless.
Correct, we keep in mind who He is speaking to and, what He was saying.
Here are the commandments which shall not pass from His Word:
Matthew 5
King James Version (KJV)
1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:
2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
I just looked outside, and it is still there.
By the way, if we take into consideration all relevant passages, instead of trying to interpret new revelation with old revelation only, we take into consideration that Christ knew that this current heavens and earth would pass away.
The above will be relevant today during the Church Age, during the Tribulation, and during the Millennial Kingdom.
In the Eternal State there will be, for example, no poor, no hungry, no-one mourning.
God's Law has always existed, it did not begin with the Pentateuch. The Gentiles performed the works of the Law written on their hearts...
Romans 2:14-15
King James Version (KJV)
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another)
Again, the "Law" here is the Word of God. He has given an internal witness to every man, and that is why every man will be judged according to his deeds, without respect of persons.
God bless.
You need the 'royal law' of Christ, reiterated by John:
34 A new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another; even as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. Jn 13
....which Christ summed up in His exposition of the law (of which He was the Author) commonly referred to as the Sermon on the Mount:
12 All things therefore whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you, even so do ye also unto them: for this is the law and the prophets. Mt 7
....of which Paul also reiterated:
8 Owe no man anything, save to love one another: for he that loveth his neighbor hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not covet, and if there be any other commandment, it is summed up in this word, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbor: love therefore is the fulfilment of the law. Ro 13
...and James also reiterated:
8 Howbeit if ye fulfil the royal law, according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well: Ja 2
because of your statement ,
I agree. The Law tells us where we have failed but cannot save us. The Law directs us to Christ for Salvation. Then Christ directs us back to the Law for Regulation
We act by motivation of Love for Jesus , not to keep a law somewhere
Before we get to loving our neighbour, we have to love God.
Mark 12:28-31. ‘"Which is the first [i.e. the most important] commandment of all?" Jesus answered him, "The first of all the commandments is this, 'Hear O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one. And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. And the second, like it, is this: 'You shall love your neighbour as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."'
Now if we love God in the way described, how can we
Place other gods before Him?
Make and/or worship idols?
Take His name in vain?
Ignore the command to set one day apart for His worship?
If we love our neighbour as ourselves, how can we
Fail to honour our parents?
Kill or even hate our neighbours?
Steal their spouses?
Steal their goods?
Lie to them?
Covet that which belongs to them?
So to try to separate the 'Royal Law' from the Decalogue is dishonest. Moreover, look at 1Cor 13:4-7 and you will see that love implies kindness, patience, humility, self-control, unselfishness, faith and hope. So the fruit of the Spirit will inevitably lead us to keep the Decalogue.
Yes. To God first, and that will naturally lead us to love our neighbours (1 John 4:19-20).
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37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungry, and fed thee? or athirst, and gave thee drink?
38 And when saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 And when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it unto one of these my brethren, even these least, ye did it unto me.
44 Then shall they also answer, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungry, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not unto one of these least, ye did it not unto me. Mt 25
Get it straight Martin. We don't love because we first loved God:
19 We love, because he first loved us. 1 Jn 4
I think you'll find we do.
Jesus answered him, "The first of all the commandments is this, 'Hear O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one. And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. And the second, like it, is this: 'You shall love your neighbour as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."'
1 John 3:14. 'We know that we have passed [past tense] from death to life because we love [present tense] our brothers.
First God loves us; then we love God, and then we love the brethren.
No, I don't. God can, and does, circumcise and write the law upon the heart LONG before the faith that cometh by hearing occurs.
The Law does not makes us love, repentance and forgiveness and appreciation show us and makes us love.
The Law or keeping of a rule instills a sence of self pride, of what I accomplished
Salvation in Jesus is totally about what He does or has done.
We love Him, because we know who we are or were and what He has done because He loves us.
We have true love because He has shown us true love
The Law or keeping of a rule instills a sence of self pride, of what I accomplished
Salvation in Jesus is totally about what He does or has done.
We love Him, because we know who we are or were and what He has done because He loves us.
We have true love because He has shown us true love
The law written upon our hearts beckons us to do by nature the things of the law. The 'unregenerate' have no such hunger or thirst. Matthew 5:6
If you look again at the Matthew quote you should see that Christ groups the Law and the Prophets together. More precisely, their period of termination is at the same time. To imagine prophecy and prophets continuing without the foundational Law as their message is contrary to Scriptural teaching.
(I had said:
Heaven and earth (and here this requires OT references) has already passed away.)
Spoken like a true literalist. Have you never considered how the Bible uses this term, "Heaven and earth"? What about Isaiah 51: 15 - 16?
"But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The LORD of hosts is his name. And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundation of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people."
What kind of planting is going on here?
What tense is used? (He wasn't referring to the Genesis event)
Who is God addressing? (Two answers are needed here)
This is not a "heaven and earth" you can see from your window. Neither did its passing away match the imaginative illustrations and descriptions of literalists futurists.
Heaven and earth (and here this requires OT references) has already passed away.)
Spoken like a true literalist. Have you never considered how the Bible uses this term, "Heaven and earth"? What about Isaiah 51: 15 - 16?
"But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The LORD of hosts is his name. And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundation of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people."
What kind of planting is going on here?
What tense is used? (He wasn't referring to the Genesis event)
Who is God addressing? (Two answers are needed here)
This is not a "heaven and earth" you can see from your window. Neither did its passing away match the imaginative illustrations and descriptions of literalists futurists.
Once again, there is no place in Scripture that allows us to separate the law for the purpose of keeping some and relegating the rest.
Neither does the Holy Spirit guide Christians to observe what has been obsoleted, specifically the Sabbath commandment, a commandment that was never meant for Christians. It was a picture, prophetical for the earlier Jews, of the rest we now have in Christ. As Paul has written (Galatians and 1 Cor) we need not observe the day as special. In fact the Sabbath commandment is the only one of the Decalogue that was not expanded upon in the New Testament.
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Is it true that both untils need to be fulfilled? Take a parallel sentence: "Until 2020 this van is under warranty until you sell the vehicle." One until being fulfilled ends the whole thing. I sell the car, or 2020 hits, no warranty.
Same here. "all was fulfilled" here:
Joh 19:28-30 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst. (29) Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. (30) When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Therefore, the jots and tittles of the law have passed, it's been fulfilled. That doesn't mean it has no value to us, but as Christians we will not be judged by it.
I think you'll find that every time the term 'the law and the prophets' is used in the NT, it refers to the Bible.