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Memo released! What's it all mean?

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InTheLight

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The quote from the National Holocaust memorial Museum says:
"During the first weeks of 1933, the Nazi regime deployed the radio, press, and newsreels to stoke fears of a pending “Communist uprising,” then channeled popular anxieties into political measures that eradicated civil liberties and democracy."

I don't see a definitive date here. You might have a point that "during the first few weeks of 1933" is misleading when compared to Jan. 31, 1933." I don't see the significance of that. You have provided nothing that refutes the methods used by the Nazi's to consolidate power which are the same as those Trump has used, namely to discredit the free press in America. I've read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich as well." it is a definitive history of that period.
I'm not denying the Nazis didn't consolidate power by cracking down on the free press. I am saying that the description of when it went down in your source material is flawed.

Trump is not enacting a new law granting him powers to incarcerate journalists, confiscate their printing presses, and physically torturing opposition politicos.

Are you delusional?

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ChrisTheSaved

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Trump calling the MSM "fake news" does not make him Hitler, just like Obama calling FOX News "bad for America" and "destructive" didn't make him Hitler.



It's even worse if you think about it - yahoo news, Mike Isikoff was in contact with Michael Steele and wrote an article and that was referenced in the warrant, talk about circles.

There are supposedly like eight memos like the one Friday, and two of those are so damaging they will never see the light of day. The MSM has not taken a direct hit yet but it will.


We now know that the assistant to Mike worked for Fusion GPS...how dirty is that?
 

FollowTheWay

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I'm not denying the Nazis didn't consolidate power by cracking down on the free press. I am saying that the description of when it went down in your source material is flawed.

Trump is not enacting a new law granting him powers to incarcerate journalists, confiscate their printing presses, and physically torturing opposition politicos.

Are you delusional?

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Do you actually deny he isn't waging war with the free press? Where have you been for the last 18 months?
 

FollowTheWay

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Trump calling the MSM "fake news" does not make him Hitler, just like Obama calling FOX News "bad for America" and "destructive" didn't make him Hitler.



It's even worse if you think about it - yahoo news, Mike Isikoff was in contact with Michael Steele and wrote an article and that was referenced in the warrant, talk about circles.

There are supposedly like eight memos like the one Friday, and two of those are so damaging they will never see the light of day. The MSM has not taken a direct hit yet but it will.
I'm saying hjis obvious war on the free press is much like Hitler's.
 

Reynolds

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Bogus because you have nothing to contribute.
Fact, just a fact you do not like. Call murder "choice" long enough and it is accepted. Call sexual abomination a "lifestyle choice" long enough and it becomes accepted. Call the founders atheists and deists long enough and idiots believe it. Call standing for Biblical truth "hate" long enough and people believe it.
 

InTheLight

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I'm saying hjis obvious war on the free press is much like Hitler's.

Yeah, sure....

Every morning the editors of the Berlin daily newspapers and the correspondents of those published elsewhere in the Reich gathered at the Propaganda Ministry to be told by Dr. Goebbels or by one of his aides what news to print and suppress, how to write the news and headline it, what campaigns to call off or institute and what editorials were desired for the day. In case of any misunderstanding a daily written directive was furnished along with the oral instructions. For the smaller out-of-town papers and the periodicals the directives were dispatched by telegram or by mail.

--Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, chapter 8, The Control of Press, Radio, and Film
 

steaver

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The democrats have put out their own memo now and are already trying to set Trump up on blocking out sensitive info so they can shout obstruction. This seems simple to me. Why doesn't Trump just call in Schiff, Pelosi and Shummer and say "is this what you want released to the public unedited by me". If they say yes, put it out. Any whining about national security can be laid at their feet. .
 

FollowTheWay

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By "free press" do you mean free to intentionally lie without facing consequences?
I mean a press that can objectively research and then print the news without being shut down or called the enemy of the American people. Are you aware this is exactly what Hitler and Stalin said about the press in those totalitarian countries. Do you want a dictator like one of those two? Well, I don't and will fight Trump's attempt to become one.
 

FollowTheWay

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What are you talking about? It has been posted several times to you. Obama tapped the phones of Fox's Rosen and his parents and In The Light reminded us that Obama attacked the AP. I can't believe you.
The statement was "Obama used police against the press." You haven't said anything to support that ridiculous lie.
 

FollowTheWay

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Yeah, sure....

Every morning the editors of the Berlin daily newspapers and the correspondents of those published elsewhere in the Reich gathered at the Propaganda Ministry to be told by Dr. Goebbels or by one of his aides what news to print and suppress, how to write the news and headline it, what campaigns to call off or institute and what editorials were desired for the day. In case of any misunderstanding a daily written directive was furnished along with the oral instructions. For the smaller out-of-town papers and the periodicals the directives were dispatched by telegram or by mail.

--Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, chapter 8, The Control of Press, Radio, and Film
How is this different from Breitbart being used by many here to be the only source of truth? The collaboration between Trump and that rag was obvious.
 

777

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Bubble and the political news = DOW correction and the MSM can't be slapped around enough AFAIC. On topic:

We now know that the assistant to Mike worked for Fusion GPS...how dirty is that?

and that Bruce Ohr's, who used to be in the DoJ, wife Nellie took a job with Fusion in the spring of 2016 - now she was another expert in Russia, have a hunch she was the one that helped Steele write that dossier. Dick Morris thinks it was a direct Clinton operative, but the relationships here are incestuous..
 
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