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Michael, the Chief Messenger = Jesus Christ?

37818

Well-Known Member
Your point of view seem to be that Christ is Michael the archangel. That view is not supported by the text.

Since you say I do not understand your view then lay it out in clear text with supporting scripture.

Without that it just becomes your opinion.
With multiple arguments, multiple posts, I may miss somethings. I do try to it simple.

It helps to know where we agree.
 

37818

Well-Known Member
FYI.
In the KJV OT, ". . . angel of the LORD . . . " occurs in 52 verses.
". . . the LORD . . . " refers to God by His Name.
 

Silverhair

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With multiple arguments, multiple posts, I may miss somethings. I do try to it simple.

It helps to know where we agree.

It would help if you actually provide scripture that shows that the archangel Michael is actually Christ. But since you cannot then why do you insist that He is?

The fact that the pre-incarnate Christ is referred to as the angel of the Lord in some verses does not equate to the archangel Michael being Christ.

Dan_10:13 "But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia.

Dan_10:21 "However, I will tell you what is inscribed in the writing of truth. Yet there is no one who stands firmly with me against these forces except Michael your prince.

Dan_12:1 "Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people, will arise. And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time; and at that time your people, everyone who is found written in the book, will be rescued.

Jud_1:9 But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"

Rev_12:7 And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war,

These are the five times that we see the angel Michael mentioned in scripture.

So which one of these is Christ and if not all times then why any time?

Scripture shows you that your view is wrong.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
Brother,
My use of capital A in angel is merely my acknowledging the deity of the angel of the LORD. If it was Lord, I would not have capitalized angel.
If I simply quoted the Biblical text, I would have left it as it was.
I followed you. I was answering in like fashion but letting you know that I see deity represented rather than present.

I am familiar with a couple of times when it is supposed that Jesus is present.
It begins to be confusing when Joshua’s meeting outside of Jericho is thrown in although no angel is mentioned.
I understand the reasoning behind some of the times but I haven’t gone back to review every instance since having been taught it. It is not exactly essential doctrine.
 
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