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Miles Morales, the First Black Spider-Man,

Use of Time

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I don't understand the felt need to do things like this. If there is perception that a specific race is underrepresented in the superhero area then create new ones that do represent them.

Why change existing ones. It is just not necessary and comes across as quite childish.

Peter Parker was killed off in the series. Miles Morales is simply donning the costume and continuing the services that Parker did when he portrayed Spiderman. Unless you are somehow saying that his successor has to be a white guy maybe? Peter Parker was not replaced as a character, this is a totally new character with his own history and stories to tell. It's a blank canvass and a passing of the torch so to speak. Kind of like the Batman comics when Jean-Paul wore the batsuit.

Peter Parker will be in the upcoming Spiderman movie anyways so unless you are a die hard comic reader (i'm not) then you aren't going to notice the difference.

The character has also been pretty popular so I'm not sure what all the outcry is all about. Calling it childish is kind of a strange reaction.

The same goes for the others in the article.
 

Gina B

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I don't understand the felt need to do things like this. If there is perception that a specific race is underrepresented in the superhero area then create new ones that do represent them.

Why change existing ones. It is just not necessary and comes across as quite childish.

What's the difference? A person is a person. Whoever plays it will still be a person, playing a cool character. How does it change anything?
 

Gina B

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Wow...but of course you're not racist. smh

That reminded me of one time when I watched in horror as a beautiful personal essay, which I felt deserved an A, was given a failing grade. The author wrote in the style she spoke and grew up in - ebonics, and I knew of no requirement to use standard English, yet that unspoken rule was there.
Her voice was beautiful and passionate. Had the language been changed to standard English, a lot would have been lost. Her voice would not have been hers. It was a very sad moment of realization for me on the lack of understanding and appreciation for differences, and realizing how tough it is to get a fair education when the very core of who you are is said to be wrong, must be "corrected," is a failing grade.
Language is such a deep part of who we are. People do use it to judge others. However, I don't think what he said was meant to be racist, just a bit of humor based on observation.
 

JohnDeereFan

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That reminded me of one time when I watched in horror as a beautiful personal essay, which I felt deserved an A, was given a failing grade. The author wrote in the style she spoke and grew up in - ebonics, and I knew of no requirement to use standard English, yet that unspoken rule was there.
Her voice was beautiful and passionate. Had the language been changed to standard English, a lot would have been lost. Her voice would not have been hers. It was a very sad moment of realization for me on the lack of understanding and appreciation for differences, and realizing how tough it is to get a fair education when the very core of who you are is said to be wrong, must be "corrected," is a failing grade.
Language is such a deep part of who we are. People do use it to judge others. However, I don't think what he said was meant to be racist, just a bit of humor based on observation.

Gina, I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but there's actually been somewhat of a controversy in journalism over the years over whether or not to quote black people verbatim when they use poor grammar and Ebonics or to clean their words up to remove black colloquialisms.

That's why, unless it's from a wire service, you'll sometimes see two news stories that quote black people differently. One might quote a black person as they actually spoke (e.g. "I be goin' to the store"), while another cleans their quotes up (e.g. "I went to the store.")

I guess when something is heard and not written, you have a little discretion. After all, you have to take into account accents, dialects, etc.

But to change somebody's words to make them sound more educated always seems very patronizing to me.

Thank you, by the way, for giving me the benefit of the doubt. Other than Salty's posts, that may be one of the few time anybody here has treated me like a human being.
 

Eric B

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Peter Parker was killed off in the series. Miles Morales is simply donning the costume and continuing the services that Parker did when he portrayed Spiderman. Unless you are somehow saying that his successor has to be a white guy maybe? Peter Parker was not replaced as a character, this is a totally new character with his own history and stories to tell. It's a blank canvass and a passing of the torch so to speak. Kind of like the Batman comics when Jean-Paul wore the batsuit.

Peter Parker will be in the upcoming Spiderman movie anyways so unless you are a die hard comic reader (i'm not) then you aren't going to notice the difference.

The character has also been pretty popular so I'm not sure what all the outcry is all about. Calling it childish is kind of a strange reaction.

The same goes for the others in the article.
Even I felt that recasting existing super heroes as black was going too far in trying to be "PC".

I thought this when I first saw the new [modern] Justice League series arising, and Green Lantern was now black. Growing up with the white Hal Jordan on the old Superfriends (which already had all new characters Black Vulcan and Cyborg in addition to Amerindian, Asian and Latino heroes added later on), I felt this just way overdid it to me. (As was said, you could always keep adding new heroes, and Cyborg continued into the new JLA universe as a common character).

But then I find it's not the same character, there are many "Green Lanterns", and Hal Jordan was only one of them, so the new character is a different one.

So likewise, I was shocked again about this news, but then not you're saying it's basically the same thing; another character taking on the role.
Though killing off Peter Parker and having someone else take over I still feel is making it "jump the shark".

Looks like the Marvel universe may end up having to have its own "Infinite Crisis".
 
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