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Millenial Exclusion, the gospel of fear

pinoybaptist

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blackbird said:
Faith alone -(minus) or (without) repentance = 0(zero) salvation

There is no salvation without repentance---a 180 degree turn

Case in point--------Zacheaus----in the Sycamore tree----after his repentance and belief was "a thief" no more---Old Zac had passed away---behold a New Zac had come!!!

Old Zac belonged to the King even before his repentance, it was no accident Jesus just happened to stop right near the tree where Zac was and just happened to look up, and just happened to know Zac's name.

Luke 19:1-5 "1 And Jesus entered and passed through Jericho. 2 And, behold, there was a man named Zacchaeus, which was the chief among the publicans, and he was rich. 3 And he sought to see Jesus who he was; and could not for the press, because he was little of stature. 4 And he ran before, and climbed up into a sycomore tree to see him: for he was to pass that way. 5 And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house. "

Today I must abide at thy house. He went to Jericho for old Zac's sake.

Neither was it an accident that He just happened to get thirsty and sat down by Jacob's well and this Samaritan woman just happened to be drawing water at that day. He knew what He was doing, where He was, why He was where He was (and that includes the cross), and who He needed to speak to.
 
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James_Newman

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blackbird said:
Faith alone -(minus) or (without) repentance = 0(zero) salvation

There is no salvation without repentance---a 180 degree turn

Case in point--------Zacheaus----in the Sycamore tree----after his repentance and belief was "a thief" no more---Old Zac had passed away---behold a New Zac had come!!!

There's one vote for works salvation, anyone else?
 

OHM

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Old Zac belonged to the King even before his repentance, it was no accident Jesus just happened to stop right near the tree where Zac was and just happened to look up, and just happened to know Zac's name.
And here we see a true statement. "Zac" belonged to the "King." This has nothing to do with everlasting life. "Zac" already had that. This had to do with the King and the offer of His Kingdom!
 

Hope of Glory

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pinoybaptist said:
Old Zac belonged to the King even before his repentance, it was no accident Jesus just happened to stop right near the tree where Zac was and just happened to look up, and just happened to know Zac's name.

Let's not confuse the issue with relevant facts, now!
 

OHM

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What did Jesus say??

Fill in the blanks for me

"Unless ye ________________ ye shall all likewise _____________."
Nowhere does it say this is a statement to the eternally unsaved.
 

blackbird

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OHM said:
Nowhere does it say this is a statement to the eternally unsaved.

First---then tell me who this statement is directed to

Then

Tell me who the eternally unsaved are and I'll tell you who the eternally saved are!!!
 

Hope of Glory

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"Perishing" can only apply to a saved individual.

How does a spiritually dead person lose his life that he doesn't have?

Edited to fix some inarticularity on my part: Anyone who is alive can perish physically. That's why when the waves were crashing over the boat, they woke Jesus and said, "Save us! We're perishing!"

But, the quoted verse is not talking about perishing physically.
 

By Faith

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At what point does the corruptable put on incorruption? When this mortal puts on immortality, right? So do I go to hell in my incorruptable body?
 
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