DHK,
I know that this thread is "Bibical principles for Church Music". I never changed the topic to CCM, or mainstream music, I was just following the natural progression of the posts that preceded mine.
I am aware of John 13:35, thank you. I even did a study of it just for the purposes of trying to understand your posts better. Since I know that many people here are KJV only, I used a KJV.
There isn't any indication in any of my books or commentaries that loving "the bretheren" and loving pagans are mutually exclusive.
Therefore, I will continue to show Christ's love to non-Christians.
Just as I didn't say that I was in a Christian band, I never said that I disagreed with John 13:35, just your interpretation of it.
I also never said that any song I wrote for my wife (not married, that was just for the sake of the argument) was or wasn't suitable for congregational worship.
In fact, I think you might even be surprised by some of my views on "congregational" music.
I can't stand "worship choruses", I think most CCM is just dumb and I keep an old Baptist hymnal by my bed and read it sometimes for a devotional or just because. I love the great hymns of the faith. (Didn't see that coming, did you?)
I don't think our problem here is a disagreement over "being in the world but not of it" (I'm sure we both agree on that), rather what does it mean to be "in the world" as opposed to being "of the world".
I think that's great that you pass out tracts and go door to door. There's a need for that but that's not my ministry. God has called me to build relationships with people who need to know Him, be they Christian or not.
Who else needs a friend more than someone who is lost without Christ? Having been there, I can tell you, it's a lonely place to be.
In an earlier post you said something to the effect that if I sing mainstream music as well as Christian music, non-Christians will say "what's the difference between Christians and us." (I hope that's right. For some strange reason I can't review your past posts so I'm going from memory.)
It's interesting that the only people who seem to care are other Christians. It's been my experience that Non-Christians
are much more concerned with how Christians treat them than and couldn't really care less with the music we listen to.
The one exception being the non-Christians who tell me how cool it is that I feel secure enough in my walk with Christ that I can get up in a bar full of people and express my faith. A couple of people have even come to Christ because of that, one being my piano/keyboard/accordion player, Tommy Owensby. (One down four to go!)
Again, I'm not trying to change the topic here but you brought this up and I felt it should be addressed.
[ August 01, 2001: Message edited by: War_Eagle ]
[ August 01, 2001: Message edited by: War_Eagle ]
I know that this thread is "Bibical principles for Church Music". I never changed the topic to CCM, or mainstream music, I was just following the natural progression of the posts that preceded mine.
I am aware of John 13:35, thank you. I even did a study of it just for the purposes of trying to understand your posts better. Since I know that many people here are KJV only, I used a KJV.
There isn't any indication in any of my books or commentaries that loving "the bretheren" and loving pagans are mutually exclusive.
Therefore, I will continue to show Christ's love to non-Christians.
Just as I didn't say that I was in a Christian band, I never said that I disagreed with John 13:35, just your interpretation of it.
I also never said that any song I wrote for my wife (not married, that was just for the sake of the argument) was or wasn't suitable for congregational worship.
In fact, I think you might even be surprised by some of my views on "congregational" music.
I can't stand "worship choruses", I think most CCM is just dumb and I keep an old Baptist hymnal by my bed and read it sometimes for a devotional or just because. I love the great hymns of the faith. (Didn't see that coming, did you?)
I don't think our problem here is a disagreement over "being in the world but not of it" (I'm sure we both agree on that), rather what does it mean to be "in the world" as opposed to being "of the world".
I think that's great that you pass out tracts and go door to door. There's a need for that but that's not my ministry. God has called me to build relationships with people who need to know Him, be they Christian or not.
Who else needs a friend more than someone who is lost without Christ? Having been there, I can tell you, it's a lonely place to be.
In an earlier post you said something to the effect that if I sing mainstream music as well as Christian music, non-Christians will say "what's the difference between Christians and us." (I hope that's right. For some strange reason I can't review your past posts so I'm going from memory.)
It's interesting that the only people who seem to care are other Christians. It's been my experience that Non-Christians
are much more concerned with how Christians treat them than and couldn't really care less with the music we listen to.
The one exception being the non-Christians who tell me how cool it is that I feel secure enough in my walk with Christ that I can get up in a bar full of people and express my faith. A couple of people have even come to Christ because of that, one being my piano/keyboard/accordion player, Tommy Owensby. (One down four to go!)
Again, I'm not trying to change the topic here but you brought this up and I felt it should be addressed.
[ August 01, 2001: Message edited by: War_Eagle ]
[ August 01, 2001: Message edited by: War_Eagle ]
