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EdSutton

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QUESTION: Is it true that the King James translators were nothing but a bunch of Episcopalian baby sprinklers?

ANSWER: No.

EXPLANATION: The company of men who did the translating of the Authorized Version was made up of Bible believing men from both the Anglican and Puritan churches. Their character and qualifications have been attested earlier.
Such a statement as, "The King James translators were nothing but a bunch of Episcopalian baby sprinklers," is one of those statements which is sadly not based on fact nor conviction. It is made with the hope of character assassination and an ultimate hope of overthrowing the authority of the King James Bible in the minds of believers.
It might be beneficial at this point to note what the King James translators were NOT.
They were not adulterers, as David. Nor were they murderers as Moses and David. Nor had any of them sacrificed any of their children to Chemosh or Molech as Solomon had in I Kings 11. Nor had they vehemently denied the Lord as Peter.
These short comings are not pointed out to bring disrespect on any of the writers of scripture. But are noted so that we should be a little more gracious in our description of the men whom God has chosen to use.
FTR (since you have addressed this to one "HD" which I would presume is Havensdad), Havensdad has never so much as used any either "Episcopalian" or "baby sprinklers" in any post he has ever made on the BB. For whatever else he may (or may not) have said, for good or bad, he has not ever said this. (Man, how did I ever find myself defending Havensdad on the BB, in the first place?) Must have something to do with my own ideas of fairness and refuting false charges, I guess!
Nothing like a good comic book for some supposed source, I guess! :rolleyes:

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Nothing like a good comic book for some supposed source, I guess! :rolleyes:

Ed

Amen, Brother Ed -- Preach it!

I first found out about the conspiracy theory of the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) to squash the KJV (King James Version) in Chick Comics. Bro. Chick sure makes good Salvation Comics :) and bad Conspiracy Theory Comics :(
 
The very defense defending modern day bibles and mr Westcott and Hort is nothing but a Jesuit defense system.Another system of deception.Jesuits has so infilterated society I dont doubt there are a few on this board pretending to be protestants.

so, u must've heard about my new Jesuit tattoo.

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The Christian church and what she stood for for 1800 years has about been destroyed through wordliness and modern day marketing methods and the attack on the New Testament TR translated into english.

i'd say almost destroyed by KJBO wordiness.

The day my SBC over 80 year old pastor leaves and a new worldly modern day bible version preacher replaces him will be the day I will leave the SB.

and either of u know that SBC belongs to an underground faction of the so-called Society of Jesus? didn't u have a peek at the next Chick booklet?

The attacks on the KJB here is no different than me reversing the attack.

sounds like a confession to me. if so, perhaps u shd quit whatever u're doing! :love2:
 

EdSutton

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You can deny the Jesuits conspired to deceive and destroy the KJV Bible but that changes nothing.

1605 Catholics plotted to blow up English parliament, but it was exposed. Catholic plants, stationed in the English court leaked news that King James intended to authorize an English Bible based on the inspired manuscript (Textus Receptus). The news electrified the Vatican. Jesuits, skilled in languages, were immediately ordered to join the Anglican church. Certain advisors trusted by King James were deep catholic agents. Puritans suspected that some of these men chosen to assist them were not of God. They complained to King James, but he overrode their objections. The plot was to secretly switch the text containing God's Word and replace it with their Roman Catholic (Vaticanus) Alexandrian manuscript. God stopped these undercover Jesuits from destroying the Word by having guards posted at their tables to watch their every move. Then they moved to place the Apocrypha into the Old Testament. Their last mission; which was to place the Apocrypha between the Old and New Testaments was temporarily accomplished, until the plot was discovered. The Jesuits believed that once the apocrypha was between the covers of the Protestant Bible, that the Protestants would finally accept it as holy writ, and then turn back to the Vatican as their final authority.
Oh please! :rolleyes:

Learn a little real history about the Bible, rather than effectively "dumping" someone's "hatchet and 'stick' job" -er' I mean "cut and paste" about some "Jesuit conspiracy", although it does appear that you likely never saw a conspiracy that you didn't like. :rolleyes:

The complete English Bibles, namely the WYC (1382), WYC-P (1395), MCB (1535), MAT (1537), TAV (1539), GRT (1530-41), GEN (1560 ff.) and BIS (1568), so apparently, these alleged catholic [sic] agents" were a bit slow on the uptake, with this "after the fact" process, considering this practice had already been "SOP" for Bibles in the English language for two and a quarter centuries.

One may rightly note that Dr. John Wycliffe and his associates, wanted nothing more than to reform the Roman Catholic church, plus give the Bible in the vernacular language of the English speaking people. LIkewise, Erasmus never left the 'Roman' church, as well.

However, that is absolutely not true of such as William Tyndale, Miles Coverdale, John Rogers, (I don't know about William Taverner), the rest of the leading translators and supporters of the GRT, including Cranmer and Cromwell, the leaders of the BIS, including the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Matthew Parker and Dr. Giles Lawrence, and especially the strong Calvinists, Dr. John Calvin, Theodore Beza, and William Whittingham, who gave us the GEN. These were all fully opposed to the Roman Church, herself, in any fashion. Yet each and every one of their 'complete' Bibles contained the Apocrypha. The fact that you or I do not believe the Apocrypha to be inspired Scripture, has nothing to do with this historical fact.
After the King James Bible was printed, the Jesuits swore to destroy the Protestant translators who opposed them. They systematically eliminated both them and their families. Later, two Jesuits were soundly converted and they informed the puritans of the conspiracy against the Protestant movement and the Word of God. The Jesuits were afraid that an English Bible printed without the Apocrypha, read throughout England, would end Catholicism throughout the English speaking world, and would block any ecumenical movement in the future. In 1655 the surviving Puritans brought forth the entire 1611 edition of the bible without the Apocrypha that had been implanted. This was God's victory over the Jesuit conspiracy.

Having lost this battle, the Vatican decided to attack the King James Bible, by making updates, saying that it was 'obsolete.' against protests, a committee was formed to create a "new and better" translation of the Bible. Two men on the committee, Hort and Wescott (both of whom were closet Catholics), put tremendous pressure on the others to accept the Alexandrian manuscript (Vaticanus) from which they produced their new Bible. The result was that Protestants were being given a Roman Catholic translation of the Bible. It was the first of many, called "the Revised Version." From there they have continued with many new translations (as the NASB, TEV, NRSV, NKJV, etc.), each one more corrupted, and closer to the desired final version, which is to be the New Age Bible for all religions. It will be called the New Revised International Version.
Uh- aren't you missing a few others, both Bibles and individuals, you can impugn, here? :rolleyes:

FTR, I am no fan of several of the above named Bible versions (or the textual form advocated by the W/H), but this is bordering on the ridiculous.
Next the Vatican began sending Jesuits to infiltrate the Protestant theological seminaries and Bible societies.
You forgot to mention Bible Schools and Bible Colleges, in your above 'smear'.

I'm sure this was merely an oversight on your part, however
. [Rolleyes 'smiley' is here deleted, in order to print.]
That they did, and filled them with professors who teach Greek using the Nestle's Greek text. It is used to teach how inaccurate the King James is, naturally there are many differences, in fact there are thousands. As a result, most Protestants today use a translation of the Bible made for them by the Roman Catholics, to undermine and destroy their faith in God, by destroying the certainty of the infallibility of God's Word, and by downplaying the deity of Christ, the virgin birth, salvation by grace through faith, the resurrection and second coming of Christ.

Again, the reason for the Catholic ecumenical movement, for the Jesuit order, and for all the corrupted manuscripts and Bibles, is to destroy the Protestant faith, and bring those who left Catholicism, back into their fold. The Lord Jesus told us in Luke 20:46 "Beware of the scribes." Those who write the materials that the people read, have a great power to influence the readers opinions. Everyone knows the power of the printed word, even secular newspapers. So today the false preachers are pumping out false doctrines and trying to cause men to disbelieve the Word of God and true biblical doctrines that will lead to salvation. Again Jesus told us in Matthew 24:4 "Take heed that no man deceive you." There are many warnings in the Bible about false preachers and prophets, and of "traditions of men" being exalted above the Word of God, and even of "doctrines of devils." The words of Jesus sums it up best: 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

What they do is add to and subtract from the Word of God. Yet we have this warning: Revelation 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." They remove key words and add words in key places, to bring a change in the meaning of the scripture to destroy the doctrines of the faith. This gives them loopholes for adding many questions and making all kinds of postulations.
'Bible Editing' is OK for Erasmus, Dr. Paris, and Dr. Blaney, apparently. Just not for any other. :confused:

Do I 'sound' a bit sarcastic, at times in this post, maybe? Sorry! It's only because I can use no more of the permitted "rolleyes" "smileys" images.
All the new versions of the Bible have been copyrighted by the major book publishers who are out to make themselves rich off of gullible Christians, who they can convince by their propaganda, that their new versions are better and more accurate and easier to read than the KJV. They are liars. Besides, how can man have the audacity to "copyright" God's Word and make it their property for commercial profit? That in itself is proof that these translations are something besides God's Word, and their purpose is questionable. I believe all these new Bibles are disreputable, and untrustworthy frauds and not the truth. They are an affront and offense to the true Word of God.


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http://www.hissheep.org/kjv/which_version_of_the_bible_is_most_accurate.html
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The 'copyright' falsehood has been refuted several times on this board, by several individuals already. in my two and a half years here on the Baptist Board. I'll not waste any more time in so doing, yet one more time.

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Dr. Bob

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The ignorant wallow in ignorance, repeating lies and attacking good translations of God's Word. Can't stop 'em. :BangHead:

Oh, wait. I can.
 
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