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More news from Donetsk the Western media won't touch

Conan

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I don’t follow links to Russian propaganda. Thanks anyway.

Squire Robertsson has linked to many sites over several threads that gives an even handed assessment of the situation in Ukraine.

peace to you
You did not want to hear former President George W Bush says about Ukraine and Putin? Don't want to hear of US policy?
 

Conan

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This is an excellent short video on the so-called Azov Batallion. That designation is misleading because it makes it sound like it is a mere fringe group. It is actually a broad, growing movement. A movement that is still being funded by our government, but n a shell-+game sort of way.
The plain fact that we support Nazi's shows that we are in the wrong. Most of the American people overwhelmingly rejects Nazi's! So why does bush, 0bama, bid0n and the Cia, and the majority of billionairs not know better? Their ways and our ways are different.
 

Conan

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Mariupol? Wasn’t the Russians just bragging about complexly destroying this city? About 90% of buildings destroyed, with a small group of Ukrainian solders hold up in a steel mill?

Are you saying Ukraine destroyed this city, not the Russians?

peace to you
You did not see where thousands of Ukrainians gave up to the Russians at the steel mills? They showed the ones with nazi tattoos?
 

canadyjd

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You did not see where thousands of Ukrainians gave up to the Russians at the steel mills? They showed the ones with nazi tattoos?
The point was the Russians destroyed the city of Mariupol, not the Ukrainian military.

As I’ve stated in other threads, there is a small movement of white nationalists in Ukraine, some (even fewer) embrace Nazi ideology. It is not widespread, but is present. The Ukrainian government has denounced it and forced a high ranking officer to resign over his support for it. That is the reporting of unbiased sources.

peace to you
 

canadyjd

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You also don't get good news on the situation. ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR are liars. Believe them, believe the worlds evil system.
Most of the info I’ve read on Ukraine has come from links that Squire Robertsson has posted. I have found them even handed and unbiased.

I’ve done some limited searches in my own, but mostly from those links. I don’t believe any of the news agencies you listed were among those links.

peace to you
 

Conan

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The point was the Russians destroyed the city of Mariupol, not the Ukrainian military.

As I’ve stated in other threads, there is a small movement of white nationalists in Ukraine, some (even fewer) embrace Nazi ideology. It is not widespread, but is present. The Ukrainian government has denounced it and forced a high ranking officer to resign over his support for it. That is the reporting of unbiased sources.

peace to you
In other words, you have no real source of information on the nazis and their power in Ukraine. The Ukrainian President can't go against them or they will remove him. Their are multiple regiments and brigades of Nazis. I cant believe you haven't seen the pictures of them with their tattoos. They were responsible for removing Ukraines last President in 2016 through a violent coup. Of course they had the backing of the cia. By the way, shouldn't Russia be beaten by now. Wasn't mainstream news media bragging about Russia loosing? Well guess what, Russia appears to be winning. If Russia ends up settling or winning you will have evidence that mainstream news media lies to you. Please don't ignore it. You will have first hand evidence. By the way, Russia's opperation is still 200,000. If they wanted to take Ukraine they would have had to move in at least a million troops. Further evidence the news has lied to you.
 
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canadyjd

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In other words, you have no real source of information on the nazis and their power in Ukraine. The Ukrainian President can't go against them or they will remove him. Their are multiple regiments and brigades of Nazis. I cant believe you haven't seen the pictures of them with their tattoos. They were responsible for removing Ukraines last President in 2016 through a violent coup. Of course they had the backing of the cia. By the way, shouldn't Russia be beaten by now. Wasn't mainstream news media bragging about Russia loosing? Well guess what, Russia appears to be winning. If Russia ends up settling or winning you will have evidence that mainstream news media lies to you. Please don't ignore it. You will have first hand evidence. By the way, Russia's opperation is still 200,000. If they wanted to take Ukraine they would have had to move in at least a million troops. Further evidence the news has lied to you.
In other words…

…You are only able to regurgitate Russian propaganda.

Thanks for the conversation

peace to you
 
In other words, you have no real source of information on the nazis and their power in Ukraine. The Ukrainian President can't go against them or they will remove him. Their are multiple regiments and brigades of Nazis. I cant believe you haven't seen the pictures of them with their tattoos. They were responsible for removing Ukraines last President in 2016 through a violent coup. Of course they had the backing of the cia. By the way, shouldn't Russia be beaten by now. Wasn't mainstream news media bragging about Russia loosing? Well guess what, Russia appears to be winning. If Russia ends up settling or winning you will have evidence that mainstream news media lies to you. Please don't ignore it. You will have first hand evidence. By the way, Russia's opperation is still 200,000. If they wanted to take Ukraine they would have had to move in at least a million troops. Further evidence the news has lied to you.
There is a slight amendment, the legitimate President of Ukraine was overthrown by MI6 and the CIA with the support of the European rulers in 2014.
 

percho

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Yes, all controlled news media anyway. You can find the truth through smaller non-controlled media. All you have to do is look at what the major news media is saying about jan 6 and the last election to know what I mean. Why is every single media source anti-second amendment? Also, look at what the major news media said about black lives matter during the riots? Where they right then?

Why is every single media source anti-second amendment?

Because either their ancestors were not here in 1776 or they were Tories.

If they fought for the Colonies that wanted to make sure they had their arms for the next Tyrant to come along.

Course I understand one man's tyrant is another's hero.
 

canadyjd

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May God open our eyes. Both yours and mine and everyone here.
Can’t argue with that at all.

When I open my eyes right now, I see Russia invading Ukraine in violation of an agreement signed in the late 1990’s. I see Ukrainian cities bombed and women and children killed. I see millions of Ukrainian refugees. I see Russia supporting rebels in eastern Ukraine attempting to break away in spite of overwhelming rejection of such action by people in the area.

When I open my eyes I see murder and destruction caused primarily by Putin’s desire to violate Ukrainian borders and reestablish the Old Soviet state.

Of course, my eyesight is probably tainted by western media. I’m sure those who support Putin see an entirely different picture.

They see Nazi’s everywhere in Ukraine. They see Putin as heroically saving Russian speaking Ukrainians from Nazi atrocities. They see the US and Allies attacking Russian attempts to save those people from Nazi’s.

What I can’t understand, however, is why those who support Putin’s war are unable to see the horror he has inflicted on the civilian population of Ukraine and the utter destruction of these cities? How can they ignore the scenes of rape torture murder committed by Russian forces?

Yes, may God open all of our eyes to the truth

or better yet… come Lord Jesus

peace to you
 
Why is every single media source anti-second amendment?

Because either their ancestors were not here in 1776 or they were Tories.

If they fought for the Colonies that wanted to make sure they had their arms for the next Tyrant to come along.

Course I understand one man's tyrant is another's hero.
The Western media is full of propaganda and lies, but sometimes reliable information appears here too. God gives the opportunity to see this information only to people who are looking for the truth. The rest of the people, get a perverted mind from God.
 
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