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More proofs of Nazi roots in the Kiev regime

AustinC

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With all due respect, you are lacking critical information. You hear only what the controlled media wants you to hear. I would like to try one more time with you though. There are 2 sides to the story.

"There are 8 million stories in the naked city..." (Kurtis Blow)
The difference between you and me is that I am not obsessed with conspiracy nor with avoiding the daily news just because I think there's a boogeyman puppeteering the whole show. I take youtube with a grain of salt and note that any person can create a narrative. Get enough followers so that youtube starts paying you and you have just become your own version of a televangelist who is making a dime off the gullible.

It seems you should take your own advise and stop listening only to the huckster on youtube.
 

asterisktom

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How many threads must we endure where the victims of Russian invasion are blamed as deserving invasion. This is the same tactic Mr. Hitler used to justify his invasions.

We need to restore the borders, and then deal non-violently with human rights violations within those countries.

How about a little context? Do you even know about the Minsk Accords? And the eight years of violation of those accords when the Kiev Government bombed the Donbass, occupied, and killed many citizens there? The actions of the Russians was not just out of the blue.
 

asterisktom

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We need to restore the borders, and then deal non-violently with human rights violations within those countries.

But this is simplistic. "Restore the borders", of course, begs the questions; Which borders? And at what point in time?
 

Van

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How about a little context? Do you even know about the Minsk Accords? And the eight years of violation of those accords when the Kiev Government bombed the Donbass, occupied, and killed many citizens there? The actions of the Russians was not just out of the blue.
Questioning the knowledge base of opponents rather than addressing their position is twaddle.
As I said, nations need to respect established borders, and work nonviolently to resolve human rights issues.
It was a communist who said political power flows out of the barrel of a gun.
 

AustinC

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But this is simplistic. "Restore the borders", of course, begs the questions; Which borders? And at what point in time?
The original capital of Russia was Kyiv. It seems that Zelensky should be the ruler of all Russia and Putin should step down since Putin would be an insurrectionist. :Ninja
 

Conan

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Give me a break, Russia agreed with the borders when they were established.
So you want the nazis to have the right to rape and liquidate the Russians who live there? Of course they are not that stupid to allow that to go on. There has been war there since at least 2014. The Russian militias living there has kept the Ukrainian forces out of there for at least six years. Ukraine was building up forces to attack the Russians who live (present tense) there in the Donbass but Putin went in with the Special Military operation to prevent Ukraine from invading its own territory to kill ethnic Russians . Its called self defense.
 

Van

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So you want the nazis to have the right to rape and liquidate the Russians who live there? Of course they are not that stupid to allow that to go on. There has been war there since at least 2014. The Russian militias living there has kept the Ukrainian forces out of there for at least six years. Ukraine was building up forces to attack the Russians who live (present tense) there in the Donbass but Putin went in with the Special Military operation to prevent Ukraine from invading its own territory to kill ethnic Russians . Its called self defense.
Why put obvious falsehoods into my mouth?
I want nations to respect borders, and non-violently work to correct human rights violations within the offending nations.

Why do you address the human rights violations of Ukraine, but not in Russia? Too wrongs do not make a right, that is a demonic view.
 

asterisktom

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Questioning the knowledge base of opponents rather than addressing their position is twaddle.
As I said, nations need to respect established borders, and work nonviolently to resolve human rights issues.
It was a communist who said political power flows out of the barrel of a gun.

I did address your position. You saw it as "twaddle". Then, after ignoring my point on borders, you followed with a non sequitur.

Forget it.
 

asterisktom

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Give me a break, Russia agreed with the borders when they were established.

Boy, you are just winging it. Minsk Accords. Look it up. You won't see it in any of the sites you apparently limit yourself to
 

asterisktom

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Good grief, this post does not address which fact stated in Post #2 is wrong.

Folks, ask yourselves why the advocates for aggression hide in obfuscation?

You are an advocate, whether knowingly or ignorantly, for the Kiev government's eight year-long aggression to the secessionist regions. Kiev had promised to honor the plebescites but later admitted that they merely agreed in order to buy time to build up their army. This was the admission of the previous president.
 

AustinC

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You are an advocate, whether knowingly or ignorantly, for the Kiev government's eight year-long aggression to the secessionist regions. Kiev had promised to honor the plebescites but later admitted that they merely agreed in order to buy time to build up their army. This was the admission of the previous president.
You are an advocate for empire building via annexation of independent, sovereign nations. You are advocating for imperialism.
 

Conan

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Why put obvious falsehoods into my mouth?
I want nations to respect borders, and non-violently work to correct human rights violations within the offending nations.

Why do you address the human rights violations of Ukraine, but not in Russia? Too wrongs do not make a right, that is a demonic view.
I put no false hoods in your mouth. You want Russia to leave the Donbass and other regions that it occupies? Those regions ethnic Russians live. As soon as Russia leaves the Ukrainians will shell, send the nazis in and murder the ethnic Russians. Do you understand the war here was going on for years way before Russia's Special Military Operation? They have shelled Ethnic Russians. They have terrorized them and killed them. All of this for years now.
 

AustinC

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I put no false hoods in your mouth. You want Russia to leave the Donbass and other regions that it occupies? Those regions ethnic Russians live. As soon as Russia leaves the Ukrainians will shell, send the nazis in and murder the ethnic Russians. Do you understand the war here was going on for years way before Russia's Special Military Operation? They have shelled Ethnic Russians. They have terrorized them and killed them. All of this for years now.
The Soviet's moved Russians into the area against the wishes of the original peoples. It is similar to how the Assyrians, Babylonians and Persians resettled people in order to destroy cultures.
Time for the Russians to go home.
 

asterisktom

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The Soviet's moved Russians into the area against the wishes of the original peoples. It is similar to how the Assyrians, Babylonians and Persians resettled people in order to destroy cultures.
Time for the Russians to go home.

Clear evidence here of a person who never cracked open a history book.
 
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