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MSU Says No Police Bias

Reynolds

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Took a study to figure that out?
What the "experts" either miss or simply won't say is that black culture causes blacks to be killed by police. The culture of rebellion, violence, contempt, antagonism, and non compliance is the reason for the deaths.
99% of whites I arrested complied with commands. 99% of 50 and older blacks complied. The younger blacks would not comply. Half of their arrests resulted in some use of force. By themselves, they would usually be compliant, but if their friends were present or they had an audience, they felt compelled to show out and resist.
 

canadyjd

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Took a study to figure that out?
What the "experts" either miss or simply won't say is that black culture causes blacks to be killed by police. The culture of rebellion, antagonism, and non compliance is the reason for the deaths.
It is unfortunate that you use the phrase "black culture" as if all Americans of African descent have the same culture. There is a radical liberal leftist ideology that is prevalent in certain areas and is not limited to any one race.

The study showed the use of deadly force was twice as likely with white suspects as with black.

Why didn't you say there was a problem with "white culture"? If whites are twice as likely as blacks to have deadly force used against them, why say the problem is with black culture?
 

canadyjd

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Never has been. Not news to anyone that pays attention.
Really? Never, in the history of these United States of America, has there been racial bias directed toward Americans of African descent by any law enforcement agency?

Your statement is clearly wrong. I hope it was just a poor choice of words.
 

Reynolds

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It is unfortunate that you use the phrase "black culture" as if all Americans of African descent have the same culture. There is a radical liberal leftist ideology that is prevalent in certain areas and is not limited to any one race.

The study showed the use of deadly force was twice as likely with white suspects as with black.

Why didn't you say there was a problem with "white culture"? If whites are twice as likely as blacks to have deadly force used against them, why say the problem is with black culture?
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It is unfortunate that you use the phrase "black culture" as if all Americans of African descent have the same culture. There is a radical liberal leftist ideology that is prevalent in certain areas and is not limited to any one race.

The study showed the use of deadly force was twice as likely with white suspects as with black.

Why didn't you say there was a problem with "white culture"? If whites are twice as likely as blacks to have deadly force used against them, why say the problem is with black culture?
Really? Never, in the history of these United States of America, has there been racial bias directed toward Americans of African descent by any law enforcement agency?

Your statement is clearly wrong. I hope it was just a poor choice of words.
His statement is correct.
 

Reynolds

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It is unfortunate that you use the phrase "black culture" as if all Americans of African descent have the same culture. There is a radical liberal leftist ideology that is prevalent in certain areas and is not limited to any one race.

The study showed the use of deadly force was twice as likely with white suspects as with black.

Why didn't you say there was a problem with "white culture"? If whites are twice as likely as blacks to have deadly force used against them, why say the problem is with black culture?
Put on a badge, work the beat for 20 years and get back to me. The answers will become overwhelmingly obvious to you.

Did you read the article? It said deadly force was twice as likely to be used on whites during arrests following a violent felony. That is not in all arrests.
The disturbing part about most shootings of black males is that the initial contact was not a violent felony or even a felony. The initial contact was traffic or other misdameanor. The "black culture" implications I mentioned cause the minor encounter to escalate to the Unavoidable use of deadly force.
 

canadyjd

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Put on a badge, work the beat for 20 years and get back to me. The answers will become overwhelmingly obvious to you.

Did you read the article? It said deadly force was twice as likely to be used on whites during arrests following a violent felony. That is not in all arrests.
The disturbing part about most shootings of black males is that the initial contact was not a violent felony or even a felony. The initial contact was traffic or other misdameanor. The "black culture" implications I mentioned cause the minor encounter to escalate to the Unavoidable use of deadly force.
First of all, I have worked as a police officer for several years, though I didn't make a career of it. I do have a little insight from my experience.

2ndly, please show your source to support your statement that in most shootings of black males the initial contact wasn't related to a felony.

And lastly, you still haven't addressed why you don't see a problem with white culture, since white males are twice as likely to be the object of deadly force in felony arrests.

That fact alone contradicts your black culture theory, unless you want to maintain that Americans of African descent, because of their black culture, cause an unavoidable escalation to deadly force when dealing with police, except in instances when they are involved in felonies.

When involved in felonies, the black culture effect must somehow be nullified, so much so they are much less likely to be involved in deadly force incident than their white counterparts.
 
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