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Mueller says Trump not under criminal investigation

Bro. Curtis

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From what I have seen, it is quite methodical.


Apparently, it was conducted that way so that evidence would not be destroyed.

How many times are doors knocked in and SWAT teams search a house in the middle of the night? That happens all the time under certain circumstances where there is sufficient evidence of criminal activity and evidence may be destroyed.

There have been numerous indictments as a result of that raid and other portions of the investigation.


Your link does not work, but I found the article.

Jarrett's reasoning in light of the Special Counsel authorization is silly. Manafort was connected with the Trump campaign, and he has longstanding ties to Russia. That didn't start in 2016, when Manafort volunteered to take over Trump's campaign. It is obviously relevant to look at what Manafort was doing before he joined the Trump campaign.

Editorial bluster is no substitute for facts.
Heh. So you say that they broke the law to prevent Manafort from pulling a Hillary. Got it.
 

Baptist Believer

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Heh. So you say that they broke the law to prevent Manafort from pulling a Hillary. Got it.
No, I said nothing of the sort and you know that.

Mueller's team had a "no knock" search warrant. Where in the world did you get the idea that it was an illegal search.

Mueller's team had evidence that Manafort and Gates were hiding documents in Manafort's home instead of providing them to the Special Counsel's office, so they obtained a no knock warrant from a judge to find them.

They found them.

Making wild accusations about illegality does not change the facts.
 

Revmitchell

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Do you have evidence that a judge did not issue a warrant, because it is certainly within the scope of the Special Counsel's authorization?


Overnight it was reported at Law and Crime that Mueller’s raid on Paul Manafort’s home took place before August 2nd, the date that Rosenstein provided Mueller support for the raid. The FBI reportedly manhandled Manafort and his wife in the early morning raid on July 26th.

Unethical Dirty Cop Mueller Stormed Manafort’s House Two Weeks Before Rosenstein Provided Support for Raid
 

Baptist Believer

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Overnight it was reported at Law and Crime that Mueller’s raid on Paul Manafort’s home took place before August 2nd, the date that Rosenstein provided Mueller support for the raid. The FBI reportedly manhandled Manafort and his wife in the early morning raid on July 26th.

Unethical Dirty Cop Mueller Stormed Manafort’s House Two Weeks Before Rosenstein Provided Support for Raid
This is not evidence that there was no warrant for the raid. They had a no knock warrant, so it was not illegal to do the search.

The leveraging of the Rosenstein memo to try to allege that the raid was illegal is simply an opinion by an attorney unrelated to the case.

Regarding the Rosenstein memo coming on August 2nd:

Daniel Goldman, a former federal prosecutor, and Law&Crime contributor doesn’t think it would really impact the Manafort case.

“As the Special Counsel persuasively argues in its opposition, the investigation underlying the charged conduct was properly within the mandate of the original order,” Goldman said in an email to Law&Crime. “ Regardless, given that Manafort was the campaign manager from May 2016 to August 2016 – during the time of the Trump Tower meeting, which he attended, the Republican National Convention, for which the Russia platform was changed, and the leaked hacked DNC emails – we know of ample evidence related to collusion and Manafort to support this search warrant. The Aug 2 memo just provided more explicit detail that was not necessary but just dotted the i’s and crossed the t’s.
 

Wingman68

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Do you have evidence that a judge did not issue a warrant, because it is certainly within the scope of the Special Counsel's authorization?
Wonder why Mueller hired an army of leftist supporting lawyers, & not a conservative lawyer in sight. Sounds so fair, right from the git go, right? Mueller should have recused from the start, but had to be there to cover for his buds. He has a reputation for strong arming to get his desired results. Is that how you would like to see the government operate? It’s all good until they come for you.
 

Baptist Believer

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Wonder why Mueller hired an army of leftist supporting lawyers, & not a conservative lawyer in sight.
(1) While your claim is often repeated, it does not hold up under scrutiny.
(2) Federal law forbids hiring based on political leanings, so if Mueller had screened personnel based on political preference, I'm sure you would be rightly complaining about it.
(3) Investigations have to be based on evidence that will stand up in court. Politically-biased charges would be spectacularly easy to defend against.

Mueller should have recused from the start, but had to be there to cover for his buds. He has a reputation for strong arming to get his desired results. Is that how you would like to see the government operate?
So you think Mueller is going to play games in the most intensely watched investigation in US history? I don't think so.

It’s all good until they come for you.
Would you have been okay with the FBI raiding the Clinton Foundation offices, or Hillary Clinton's campaign offices under the same circumstances? I would.
 

Revmitchell

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This is not evidence that there was no warrant for the raid. They had a no knock warrant, so it was not illegal to do the search.

The leveraging of the Rosenstein memo to try to allege that the raid was illegal is simply an opinion by an attorney unrelated to the case.

I know, I know that you libbies want Trump destroyed at all costs. This attitude that drives this denial of facts is delusional. Seriously it makes you guys look silly.
 

Baptist Believer

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I know, I know that you libbies...
False.

...want Trump destroyed...
False.

...at all costs.
False.

This attitude that drives this denial of facts is delusional.
I have posted documents and those who have protested have provided opinions.

Some here apparently think that Rosenstein authorizes search warrants, not judges. That's a basic fact about our law that your arguments ignore.

You sir, are the one who is ignoring facts.

Seriously it makes you guys look silly.
The fact that you can't refute the facts I have presented and have resorted, yet again, to falsehoods and personal attacks shows what is really going on.
 

Revmitchell

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Some here apparently think that Rosenstein authorizes search warrants, not judges. That's a basic fact about our law that your arguments ignore.

What you don't get is it is Rosenstein that had to authorize the investigation in the first place. Which at that point he had not. The other fact yall keep ignoring is that there is no existing evidence to tie Trump to an Russia collusion with regards to the election. Hence he is not the target. The Mueller investigation is wide and has no direction. Its a witch hunt nothing more, nothing less. Keep dreaming
 

Baptist Believer

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What you don't get is it is Rosenstein that had to authorize the investigation in the first place. Which at that point he had not.
Actually, he had authorized it in the original Special Counsel order.

Manafort was a person "associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump."

The other fact yall keep ignoring is that there is no existing evidence to tie Trump to an Russia collusion with regards to the election.
That remains to be seen. Neither you nor I know what evidence Mueller has collected.

Hence he is not the target.
As I pointed out previously, he is a "subject" of a criminal investigation. So, I get it. Do you?

The name of this thread is patently false. President Trump IS under criminal investigation, but he is not currently a "target" of the investigation.

The Mueller investigation is wide...
Yes, it was commissioned to be a broad investigation (see the order).

...and has no direction.
It seems to be following the evidence.

Its a witch hunt nothing more, nothing less.
If it's a witch hunt, it keeps turning up witches. One sentence, several guilty pleas, lots of indictments...

Keep dreaming
You seem to be the one who is asleep. Time to wake up.
 

church mouse guy

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Trump should not talk to Mueller because Mueller will immediately afterwards charge him with lying to the FBI. Mueller is no good.
 

Baptist Believer

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Trump should not talk to Mueller because Mueller will immediately afterwards charge him with lying to the FBI. Mueller is no good.
Here's an idea:

Trump should not lie to the FBI.

Why is Mueller "no good" for asking President Trump questions?

If you expect the President to lie to the FBI, then it sounds like you think he is guilty of something. If he is guilty of something, shouldn't he be held accountable?
 

HankD

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I have to admit I really dont understand the unprecedented level of hatred that libbies have toward Trump. Indont know where it comes from.
IMO it goes back to the Bill Clinton fiasco.

I thought the actions of many Republicans were disgraceful. The nation was humiliated.

Even after the smoke cleared and Bill Clinton publicly apologized to his family and the world they still wouldn't leave him alone.
It made me heart sick.

The Republicans were probably trying to get even for Nixon.

Now the Democrats are looking for revenge (IMO of course).
 

church mouse guy

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Here's an idea:

Trump should not lie to the FBI.

Why is Mueller "no good" for asking President Trump questions?

If you expect the President to lie to the FBI, then it sounds like you think he is guilty of something. If he is guilty of something, shouldn't he be held accountable?

Mueller has a bad record. He wants to put an American General in prison for nothing. In short, he is incompetent.
 
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