Music (oh man its about to go down)

[Gregory Perry Sr.]

Keep It Simple!!!

The Psalms also "encourage" animal sacrifice, but their allusions to types and shadows under a dispensation that has expired cannot be interpreted as commandments to the church except in their spiritual significance. That's what I mean by your "take," not whether or not you can read the word "loud."

You must have missed my Spirit exception. But there is nothing under the sun with which a man has to do that the Scriptures do not touch upon. (Those who cite cars and computers understand neither cars, computers nor the Scriptures.) But music is part of human nature, and there is no "style" that is really new. There is no new thing under the sun.

No, what we're going to say is that excess in anything except the Spirit is condemned and sensual.



Paul new the word. So did the Ephesians. And they knew that hymns aren't dithyrambs. The point is, that the character of Christian interaction is such that it excludes them as a style, their manner lacking the virtues of moderation and self-control.



Learn to recognize metonymy. He is speaking of a profligate lifestyle.


Sure, when you tell me what Scriptures describe "a proud look." We know the Lord hates a proud look. So when you can show me the Scriptures that describe the angle of the nose, tilt of the head, postions of the eyebrows, etc. so that we can know when crossed the line from gravity to pride, I will give you a music theory lesson from the Scriptures.

(See the highlighted words above).......Aaron...brother...my wife would skin you alive for using them highdollar, high-falutin' words like those highlighted above!:laugh: Don't you know that most of these here folks were schooled in government schools and don't know them thar types of words?

That said...WHAT on earth is a dithyramb? No kidding man....in all my 58 years (and I believe I have an above average vocabulary) I have NEVER heard that word...much less know what it means. Is it Greek or something (since you say Paul knew it)? Translate please. Thank you.


Bro.Greg:saint:

 

[Aaron]

:smilewinkgrin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dithyramb

 

[Gorship]

So to explain my struggle a little bit.

I listen to probably the more extreme edge of metal. However, I agree to a large extent all of the things that a IFB church would agree on.

Then I get to the music issue, and they quote drug addicts whos lyrics in their music are completely vile.. but that is not limited to rock/metal music... Opera singers have drinking problems, lets just be real here.

So is music a preference issue in the IFB church or would i technically not be an IFB.

 

[12strings]

So to explain my struggle a little bit.

I listen to probably the more extreme edge of metal. However, I agree to a large extent all of the things that a IFB church would agree on.

Then I get to the music issue, and they quote drug addicts whos lyrics in their music are completely vile.. but that is not limited to rock/metal music... Opera singers have drinking problems, lets just be real here.

So is music a preference issue in the IFB church or would i technically not be an IFB.

1. If you are a member of and IFB church, then you are one. especially if you agree with local church autonomy and Baptist doctrine, you are Independent and Baptist...Now, in my own opinion, the term fundamentalist as a positive term refering to a Christian or group of Christians has outlived its usefulness (see here: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=87052)

2. If you listen to Metal music, you are probably in the minority of IFBers, or at least those who admit to it.

3. It is not just a preference issue, as many IFB would argue that there are musical elements that make it actually sinful. I don't think their arguments hold water, but they believe them nonetheless. I would say hard rock music has value: Recognizing artistic talent in the artists, boosting energy when working out or doing some housework, releasing stress hormones by "rocking out."

4. I would say it's less important to figure out if you fit with IFB or not, and more important to come to a settled conviction about music based on solid biblical truth...and that you not hold your musical desires as a sacred cow that you are unwilling to give up if it benifits another Christian.

 

[Gorship]

1. If you are a member of and IFB church, then you are one. especially if you agree with local church autonomy and Baptist doctrine, you are Independent and Baptist...Now, in my own opinion, the term fundamentalist as a positive term refering to a Christian or group of Christians has outlived its usefulness (see here: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=87052)

2. If you listen to Metal music, you are probably in the minority of IFBers, or at least those who admit to it.

3. It is not just a preference issue, as many IFB would argue that there are musical elements that make it actually sinful. I don't think their arguments hold water, but they believe them nonetheless. I would say hard rock music has value: Recognizing artistic talent in the artists, boosting energy when working out or doing some housework, releasing stress hormones by "rocking out."

4. I would say it's less important to figure out if you fit with IFB or not, and more important to come to a settled conviction about music based on solid biblical truth...and that you not hold your musical desires as a sacred cow that you are unwilling to give up if it benifits another Christian.

Appreciate the response sir :thumbsup:

"at least one who admits it" I laughed at that... is there closet Baptist Metal Heads out there!?!? :tear:

 

[Gregory Perry Sr.]

Alrighty then.....

:smilewinkgrin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dithyramb

OK...I'll stick to the real stuff that God likes....let the pagans have the dithyrambs!


Bro.Greg:saint: