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[timtofly]

It's true. Is it not?

Are there militants who would rather die, than go out alive? Do they intentionally get covid19 and spread it around? Do they go out and get eaten by wild animals? Do they starve themselves to death? War is only a quarter of seal 4, Revelation 6:8

8 I looked, and there in front of me was a pallid, sickly-looking horse. Its rider’s name was Death, and Sh’ol followed behind him. They were given authority to kill one-quarter of the world by war, by famine, by plagues and with the wild animals of the earth.

 

[1689Dave]

On the whole, no.

There's no way to tell without visiting every Dispensationalist Church in the world. But the ones I know of see pagan Israel as a kind of rabbit's foot where anything you do to bless them brings great rewards. Not understanding that all the promises made to Abraham are YES only in Christ. I.e., bless the Church (Biblical Israel) and God will bless you.

 

[1689Dave]

Are there militants who would rather die, than go out alive? Do they intentionally get covid19 and spread it around? Do they go out and get eaten by wild animals? Do they starve themselves to death? War is only a quarter of seal 4, Revelation 6:8

8 I looked, and there in front of me was a pallid, sickly-looking horse. Its rider’s name was Death, and Sh’ol followed behind him. They were given authority to kill one-quarter of the world by war, by famine, by plagues and with the wild animals of the earth.

Are these people in the article of sound doctrine? None that I've ever met is.

 

[1689Dave]

No.its not

“This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:” Acts 7:38 (KJV 1900)

 

[1689Dave]

On the whole, no.

We only know of those we are around.

 

[Yeshua1]

Don't what?

There are Orthodox Preterists . And there are the Preterist heretics.

Christ's second appearing is yet future. Hebrews 9:28; 1 John 3:2. The Preterist heretics deny this. 2 Timothy 2:18, "Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some."

Partial ones are ok, but full preterists deny future second coming!

 

[Yeshua1]

“This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:” Acts 7:38 (KJV 1900)

How can there a Church without the Messiah yet come here?

 

[Yeshua1]

There's no way to tell without visiting every Dispensationalist Church in the world. But the ones I know of see pagan Israel as a kind of rabbit's foot where anything you do to bless them brings great rewards. Not understanding that all the promises made to Abraham are YES only in Christ. I.e., bless the Church (Biblical Israel) and God will bless you.

God is a big God, and he can handle both the Church and national Israel!

 

[1689Dave]

God is a big God, and he can handle both the Church and national Israel!

He abolished national Israel.
“For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.” Acts 3:22–23 (KJV 1900)

 

[1689Dave]

How can there a Church without the Messiah yet come here?

“Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)

 

[Yeshua1]

He abolished national Israel.
“For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.” Acts 3:22–23 (KJV 1900)

Paul disagrees with you, as they are enemies of God now, for our sake but God will one day reel them back in!

 

[Yeshua1]

“Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)

Church under the New Covenant!

 

[1689Dave]

Church under the New Covenant!

It was a State Church of unbelievers and believers. Christ abolished the State Church with the State. And removed unbelievers when he abolished circumcision. He now builds his Church on revelation and faith alone.

 

[1689Dave]

Paul disagrees with you, as they are enemies of God now, for our sake but God will one day reel them back in!

Paul says he is one such. And many have been converted today. But God has placed the unbelievers under wrath till the end of the world. We preach the gospel until then meaning that's when the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

 

[atpollard]

seems that some see one must have the 'right" view eschatology to even be saved!

Yup, Biblical eschatology is a prerequisite for salvation.
[just kidding]

I tend to keep my eschatology simple: I am pretty sure that Jesus is literally coming back, but even if He doesn't, I am going to be with Him ... and that's good enough for me. All the rest is just "details" that I am content to allow Him to surprise me with.

 

[Yeshua1]

It was a State Church of unbelievers and believers. Christ abolished the State Church with the State. And removed unbelievers when he abolished circumcision. He now builds his Church on revelation and faith alone.

Church was not instituted on earth until pentacost!

 

[Yeshua1]

Paul says he is one such. And many have been converted today. But God has placed the unbelievers under wrath till the end of the world. We preach the gospel until then meaning that's when the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Jews are and have always been saved out by God, and they will turn to Jesus at His Second Coming event!

 

[1689Dave]

Church was not instituted on earth until pentacost!

The Church is as old as Abel, Job, and his friends. It's the body of Christ.

 

[1689Dave]

Jews are and have always been saved out by God, and they will turn to Jesus at His Second Coming event!

They exist for one reason today. Their hatred and rejection of Christ. The real Jews accepted him and remained Israel.

 

[Yeshua1]

The Church is as old as Abel, Job, and his friends. It's the body of Christ.

Not until day of Pentacost!