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Must we be "Baptist"?
- Thread starter Washad
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You are no idealist my brother. But is that how Christ wants it to be?We are Baptist because that's who were are!... I'm a particular type of Baptist... I am an Old Line Sovereign Grace Primitive Baptist... How can someone who embraces the Total Depravity of Calvinist Baptist which is an essential doctrine, compromise this doctrine with Baptist who are free-willers?... Can you mix the Sovereign Grace of God and the works of man?... Brethren its NEVER going to happen?
That is why there are so many isims, schisms, splits and divisions... And NEVER the twain shall meet... I have been watching for almost twenty years on here this interaction between them and I know whereof I speak... Hobie should check his Baptist history and then maybe he would understand why there are so many, and why they cannot worship together... You will NEVER see Primitive which I am, Calvinist which some other are and Free-will Baptist holding hands around the camp fire singing Kumbaya... Brother Glen
Well, John baptized where there was much water.
Since we were given a repository of faith & practice, but not given a specific name, the doctrine must be more important than the name.
I like the name, which, though it covers a wide spread practically, generally stands for those who believe the basics (or fundamentals) of Bible doctrine (such as virgin birth, inspired Bible, salvation by grace) and also covers Baptist distinctives such as believers' immersion, congregational government, priesthood of believers, etc. I don't think we have to abandon the name to preserve the doctrines, but if the name became closely associated with some kind of heresy, I would be willing to give it up.
In my own personal experience, though, the churches I have seen remove the name usually have been those more liberal and progressive. Maybe they will eventually give up the name and leave it for the rest of us.
never do that in lake Superior, as its 34 degrees year round!
reminds me of while back in AOG church, when elder friend of the local IFB church liked to brag that they followed the way of John the Baptist being a Baptist, then my friend would remind him that "John baptized in water, while we follow the one who baptized in the Holy Ghost!"Since we were given a repository of faith & practice, but not given a specific name, the doctrine must be more important than the name.
I like the name, which, though it covers a wide spread practically, generally stands for those who believe the basics (or fundamentals) of Bible doctrine (such as virgin birth, inspired Bible, salvation by grace) and also covers Baptist distinctives such as believers' immersion, congregational government, priesthood of believers, etc. I don't think we have to abandon the name to preserve the doctrines, but if the name became closely associated with some kind of heresy, I would be willing to give it up.
In my own personal experience, though, the churches I have seen remove the name usually have been those more liberal and progressive. Maybe they will eventually give up the name and leave it for the rest of us.
There is actually a trend within Baptist churches to remove "baptist" from the name of the church, in an effort to avoid the baggage that term has acquired.
Well I'm proud to wear the label of an Old Line Sovereign Grace Primitive BAPTIST... You try to take the name BAPTIST off of our church, who btw the way was the forerunner of Jesus, John The Baptist and baptized him by immersion and that's where we got our name... You may incite a rebellion... Its true I'm a Christian first and that being said I'm a Primitive Baptist one!... Brother Glen
I forgot we believe in believers baptism ONLY, we don't baptize babies!
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The concern is not the immerse part. It's getten 'em back un-immersed that makes a good baptist.Well, John baptized where there was much water.
"Superior, they said, never gives up her dead."
When I was a young man, it was fairly common to hear "Baptist" touted as a/the scriptural name for the church (at least I heard it in this area). I think much of that was a push back against the Church of Christ, who were always saying that they had the scriptural name.
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Rlvaughn#25
Thank you. Yes I agree that it is usually the more liberal churches who drop the baptist title, usually after dropping some biblical doctrine in an attempt to "draw in" more people.
Van#28
Yes, baggage is usually the reason given. I would like to know what that baggage is though. Of course that would vary from church to church. It would be something I would want to know before I joined that local body.
Rlvaughn#33
I have sometimes wondered how many of the teachings I heard growing up were reactionary to certain events/movements in their history. Some seem obvious but that just leads starts one to thinking...
Thank you. Yes I agree that it is usually the more liberal churches who drop the baptist title, usually after dropping some biblical doctrine in an attempt to "draw in" more people.
Van#28
Yes, baggage is usually the reason given. I would like to know what that baggage is though. Of course that would vary from church to church. It would be something I would want to know before I joined that local body.
Rlvaughn#33
I have sometimes wondered how many of the teachings I heard growing up were reactionary to certain events/movements in their history. Some seem obvious but that just leads starts one to thinking...
