My Political Views.

[Crabtownboy]

I am pro-life!

 

[Salty]

I'm not worried about destroying the planet - its going to last a long time - at least until the second coming.

 

[Zaac]

I am pro-life!

Me too. I however don't fret too much about us destroying the planet because it belongs to God. I do however believe that we should still be good stewards over this which God has given us dominion.

 

[exscentric]

Down with tornados and typhoons, where is congress, why don't they do something about nature!

 

[Alcott]

Then you're against God, who will destroy it-- 1 Peter 3:2.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Then you're against God, who will destroy it-- 1 Peter 3:2.

Did man create earth?

 

[Salty]

You continue your lie. Show me any post where I have said I am pro-abortion?

Then once and for all, make a full statement on abortion. Do you agree with any exceptions?

I have started a new thread on this - come over to this new page:

 

[church mouse guy]

You continue your lie. Show me any post where I have said I am pro-abortion?

I never said that you are pro-abortion--you even quoted my post and the words are not there. I did say that you are pro-choice and you are NOT pro-life. I think that you are playing word games a la Alice in Wonderland. And thanks for calling me a liar--very nice of you, but then you are a nice guy, huh? Would you say that you are a typical liberal or a typical Baptist?

 

[Crabtownboy]

I never said that you are pro-abortion--you even quoted my post and the words are not there. I did say that you are pro-choice and you are NOT pro-life. I think that you are playing word games a la Alice in Wonderland. And thanks for calling me a liar--very nice of you, but then you are a nice guy, huh? Would you say that you are a typical liberal or a typical Baptist?

How can a person be pro-choice and not be pro-abortion?

I'd say I am much more pro-life than many on the board who are not in favor of feeing poor children, providing medical benefits to poor children, etc. Those folk are simply pro-birth, but not truly pro-life.

 

[church mouse guy]

How can a person be pro-choice and not be pro-abortion?

I'd say I am much more pro-life than many on the board who are not in favor of feeing poor children, providing medical benefits to poor children, etc. Those folk are simply pro-birth, but not truly pro-life.

And you called me a liar and then tried to twist my words to mean something that you charged me with saying. I guess that you are a typical Baptist.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

How can a person be pro-choice and not be pro-abortion?

Greetings CTB, I haven't been on the board much over the past year until recently. I trust that you and yours are being showered with God's Blessings.

Of all the issues we face in the US, this is the one that invokes the most passion/anger/fervor.....and rightfully so. IMO, abortion is murder, plain and simple. I believe that life begins at conception, and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise, and show me PRECISELY where life begins. Although it could be claimed I am taking the Verse out of context, I am invoking the Principle, not the Passage: I think Matthew 25:45 is a good yardstick for the topic. Those of us that are pro-life did what we could do; however, neither party is ever going to overturn the decision in Roe v. Wade.

Despite my feelings on this matter, I am politically pro-choice. The decision handed down by Roe v. Wade is the law of the land, and has withstood the challenges. The courts have decided that it is a woman's right to choose. That being said (or written), there will be accountability for the choice that is made. In other words, the "right to choose" is accompanied by the "requirement to answer" for that choice. Don't know about you, but I sure wouldn't want to face the Almighty and explain that "choice." Not saying that any sin is greater than another, but this is a sin that involves someone else....

This dichotomy is due to my belief that my politics and my beliefs are mutually exclusive. I am liberal politically, but I am personally very conservative. We are a nation of liberty and I acknowledge that many in our nation do not share my beliefs/convictions. That is why I assigned myself the moniker of "a TRUE liberal." Most of the people who claim to be "liberal" aren't liberal in any way, shape or form: they are authoritarians. But that is a subject for another discussion.....

Regardless, I admire your convictions on this subject and I respect your opinion - even if I don't share it. Psalms 133:1 brother!

Regards, hope all is well,
BiR

 

[Crabtownboy]

And you called me a liar and then tried to twist my words to mean something that you charged me with saying. I guess that you are a typical Baptist.

Please answer my question. How can a person be pro-choice and not be pro-abortion?

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

And you called me a liar and then tried to twist my words to mean something that you charged me with saying. I guess that you are a typical Baptist.

Alright, CMG: let's not start a feud with the Baptists.......


Hope all is well,
BiR (a BAPTIST!!!)

 

[Crabtownboy]

Greetings CTB, I haven't been on the board much over the past year until recently. I trust that you and yours are being showered with God's Blessings.

Thanks. We have been blessed.

Those of us that are pro-life did what we could do; however, neither party is ever going to overturn the decision in Roe v. Wade.

I agree.

Despite my feelings on this matter, I am politically pro-choice. The decision handed down by Roe v. Wade is the law of the land, and has withstood the challenges. The courts have decided that it is a woman's right to choose. That being said (or written), there will be accountability for the choice that is made. In other words, the "right to choose" is accompanied by the "requirement to answer" for that choice. Don't know about you, but I sure wouldn't want to face the Almighty and explain that "choice." Not saying that any sin is greater than another, but this is a sin that involves someone else....

I agree with you. Morality and legality are two very different things. Like it or not abortion is the law of the land. It is probably the most reviewed topic in our judicial history.

This dichotomy is due to my belief that my politics and my beliefs are mutually exclusive. I am liberal politically, but I am personally very conservative. We are a nation of liberty and I acknowledge that many in our nation do not share my beliefs/convictions. That is why I assigned myself the moniker of "a TRUE liberal." Most of the people who claim to be "liberal" aren't liberal in any way, shape or form: they are authoritarians. But that is a subject for another discussion.....

I agree with you.

Regardless, I admire your convictions on this subject and I respect your opinion - even if I don't share it. Psalm 133:1, brother!

Regards, hope all is well,
BiR

We are not far apart. However, when someone accuses of being pro-abortion I take that as a moral accusation, not a legal one. And at that I protest.

I ask CMG my question as he simply was trying to lay a trap. I do not believe he was speaking legal issues, but moral.

Thanks for your reasoned response. I truly appreciate it.

Many blessings.

 

[Alcott]

Did man create earth?

No. Why do you ask?

 

[church mouse guy]

Alright, CMG: let's not start a feud with the Baptists.......


Hope all is well,
BiR (a BAPTIST!!!)

Well, BiR, a typical Baptist called me a liar because I didn't say what he said that I said. He will never apologize--afterall, I have stood up to him for over a decade. He is no more pro-life than Margaret Sanger. I used to admire Baptists until posters like CTB showed their private natures openly on the Baptist Board. Now I am thinking that the overwhelming majority of Baptists are like CTB.

 

[Zaac]

Crabtown, you are no more pro-life than you are a Republican--that is why I say that you are a counterfeit. You are pro-choice, which means that you think that a woman has the right to decide to abort at her whim. Do you understand what I am saying? You are not pro-life, which means anti-abortion. I hope that you and the moderators get the point even if they disagree.

That IS NOT what pro-life means. It's just what you and a bunch of other political types want it to mean. CTB has stated his stance several times. HE qualifies as being pro-life.

You and the others on this board who are anti-abortion but pro-capital punishment are the ones who should be classified as counterfeit pro-lifers.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Well, BiR, a typical Baptist called me a liar because I didn't say what he said that I said. He will never apologize--afterall, I have stood up to him for over a decade. He is no more pro-life than Margaret Sanger. I used to admire Baptists until posters like CTB showed their private natures openly on the Baptist Board. Now I am thinking that the overwhelming majority of Baptists are like CTB.

Yes, following the teachings and example of Christ.

If you feel that way about Baptists, why do you come to a Baptist board and spend your time insulting others?

 

[Alcott]

That IS NOT what pro-life means. It's just what you and a bunch of other political types want it to mean.

And I suppose the only thing it could mean is what YOU want it to mean?

CTB has stated his stance several times. HE qualifies as being pro-life.

Just not legally pro-life; he favors no legal protection for the defenseless.

You and the others on this board who are anti-abortion but pro-capital punishment are the ones who should be classified as counterfeit pro-lifers.

How do you figure?... [I will save a step here by omitting the exchange of the obvious question]... If there is no execution for one convicted of murder, but there is "life without parole," that is the death penalty-- confining and controlling them till life is gone, just slower (although with the countless appeals and obstructions, for some it wouldn't be after all).

 

[Zaac]

And I suppose the only thing it could mean is what YOU want it to mean?

You feel free to SUPPOSE whatever you like. Pro-life means pro-life. It's not this cherry picking silliness fancied by you and your friends.

Just not legally pro-life; he favors no legal protection for the defenseless.

He's a follower of Jesus Christ aligned with HIS pro-life. Why would he or you care about legally pro-life? That's just stupid. You prefer he be legally pro-life before Jesus Christ pro-life?

How do you figure?..

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Real easy. Pro-life means pro-life. If you're pro-killing someone, then you're OBVIOUSLY not pro-life.

[I will save a step here by omitting the exchange of the obvious question]... If there is no execution for one convicted of murder, but there is "life without parole," that is the death penalty

Where do you come up with this foolishness? You're not pro-life. Deal with it. Trying to rewrite the narrative now for death to mean something else is silly. With whom on earth do you think you're dialoging?

- confining and controlling them till life is gone,

just slower (although with the countless appeals and obstructions, for some it wouldn't be after all).

If their spirit isn't in heaven or hell, they are alive.