Myth: Republicans never do anything about abortion

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Why aren't you engaging with what I have????

Because of what he said earlier ... you haven't proven your point. And we three have effectively derailed this thread. I will start another one where, if you wish to continue the discussion, we can do so. Let's leave this poor defenseless thread alone.

 

[Matt Black]

He said that all I had was 'unfounded opinion', I demonstrated that it was based on factual observation (eg: racist Tweets against Miss America), he then said I had problems with 'reading comprehension'. I'm really not sure accordingly how I can have a sensible conversation with such an individual but YMMV...

 

[Revmitchell]

He said that all I had was 'unfounded opinion', I demonstrated that it was based on factual observation (eg: racist Tweets against Miss America), he then said I had problems with 'reading comprehension'. I'm really not sure accordingly how I can have a sensible conversation with such an individual but YMMV...

Because you misrepresented what I said. I now believe it was intentional rather than a reading comprehension issue. Further you have tried to take one single event and paint the whole country with it and make it a general rule. And you are right, you cannot have a sensible conversation. Because it is you who does not want one. I will leave you to your misery.

 

[Matt Black]

In what way did I 'misrepresent' what you said???

[ETA - I'm quite happy BTW, not at all miserable. What about you?]

 

[poncho]

So Poncho wants to take a few examples of liberal Republicans and paint the entire party with them. That is called a fallacy

No actually Poncho was just pointing out the Bush's long history of supporting eugenics in general and Planned Parenthood in particular and inject a little historical context into the discussion.

Some might call accusing another of doing something he is not doing "bearing false witness".

 

[Revmitchell]

No actually Poncho was just pointing out the Bush's long history of supporting eugenics in general and Planned Parenthood in particular.

That is just straight out baloney.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

That is just straight out baloney.

As you wisely advised me not too long ago, "You gotta stop feeding that thing."

 

[poncho]

That is just straight out baloney.

So as with Matt you are claiming the force of your own opinion outweighs the facts then. Is that about right?

 

[Revmitchell]

So as with Matt you are claiming the force of your own opinion outweighs the facts then. Is that about right?

There have been no facts presented.

 

[poncho]

There have been no facts presented.

I see so you are saying the fact that Prescott Bush was the treasurer of Planned Parenthood during it's first fundraising campaign in 1947 isn't a fact at all.

Is this power to rewrite history by the force of your opinion alone something that you can share with others or is it just for your own personal use?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Maybe someday some people will learn that blogs are not "facts" but cobbled together "opinion" -- using the word in its loosest possible form. Cobbled together out of half-truths, innuendo, rumors, lies, and just plain ignorance.

"Ignorance," for example, of the fact that in 1947 Planned Parenthood wasn't an abortion advocate or provider, since it was illegal to perform abortions in 1947. Or that the agenda of Margaret Sanger, the founder of the American Birth Control League, had no connection with PP in 1947 because, believe it or not, PP wasn't moving forward rapidly enough to address her agenda of eugenics and cultural manipulation through birth control and sterilization. You see, some people are ignorant of the fact that PP wasn't always the radical, wild-eyed killing machine it has become, despite having people involved with it in its formative years who had that as their goal. Instead it was an organization that helped overcome racial <--[Edit: let me change that to "ethnic" instead] and religious barriers to legitimate birth control measures such as condoms, and helped persuade Congress to repeal laws that made shipping birth control mechanisms across state lines illegal.

Maybe someday people will learn. Probably not today, though.

 

[Revmitchell]

Maybe someday some people will learn that blogs are not "facts" but cobbled together "opinion" -- using the word in its loosest possible form. Cobbled together out of half-truths, innuendo, rumors, lies, and just plain ignorance.

"Ignorance," for example, of the fact that in 1947 Planned Parenthood wasn't an abortion advocate or provider, since it was illegal to perform abortions in 1947. Or that the agenda of Margaret Sanger, the founder of the American Birth Control League, had no connection with PP in 1947 because, believe it or not, PP wasn't moving forward rapidly enough to address her agenda of eugenics and cultural manipulation through birth control and sterilization. You see, some people are ignorant of the fact that PP wasn't always the radical, wild-eyed killing machine it has become, despite having people involved with it in its formative years who had that as their goal. Instead it was an organization that helped overcome racial and religious barriers to legitimate birth control measures such as condoms, and helped persuade Congress to repeal laws that made shipping birth control mechanisms across state lines illegal.

Maybe someday people will learn. Probably not today, though.

Kind of reminds me of the myth of Uniformitarianism with regards to evolution. Assume it is always the same to meet an agenda.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Kind of reminds me of the myth of Uniformitarianism with regards to evolution. Assume it is always the same to meet an agenda.

Yup. An apt comparison. :thumbsup: