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Name One Thing The Republican Party Has Done FOR Americans

revmwc

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That's all nice.


But I was talking about what I've been called here.

Haven't read what you are talking about in you being called things, just showing what God says about those things.

Whether a christian is Dem, Rep. or Ind these two issues should go by what scripture says and not by party affiliation.
 

just-want-peace

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Haven't read what you are talking about in you being called things, just showing what God says about those things.

Whether a christian is Dem, Rep. or Ind these two issues should go by what scripture says and not by party affiliation.

A great big double AMEN to this!!!
 

carpro

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Psalms 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

Abortion of course is removing God's reward.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Instead of allowing them to marry God said they should be convicted and the death penalty applied. Their lifestyle is an Abomination to God.

But you have the right to your beliefs, I tend to follow what God said.

:laugh:

He was being facetious.
 

Crabtownboy

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I dunno, man. Saying Rand Paul wants to abolish the ACA is a pretty blatant dishonesty. Crabtownboy might not be the only one saying it, but there is no truth in it at all.

Maybe a retraction would be in order.

Not really. I gave you about 20 links to the topic. Of course you refused to look at any of them. I was not surprised that you did not read any of them.

Try doing a bit of research and you will find I was right. Rand's comments have been shown to not stand up to fact checking. Don't believe me? Look it up for yourself.

When Wolf Blitzer asked Rand about his ADA opposition, he tried to make his concerns sound reasonable. "[L]et's say you have a local office and you have a two-story office, and one of your workers is handicapped," the Republican said. "Should you not be allowed maybe to offer them an office on the first floor or should you be forced to put in a $100,000 elevator? ... [M]y understanding is that small business owners were often forced to put in elevators, and I think you ought to at least be given a choice. Can you provide an opportunity without maybe having to pay for an elevator?"

At first blush, that may not sound ridiculous. The problem, as Yahoo News' John Cook discovered, is that Rand Paul has no idea what he's talking about, complaining publicly about the ADA without knowing what's in it.

The legislation specifically exempts the vast majority of buildings three stories and under from any requirement to install elevators. In other words, if you are a small business owner and you have a two-story office and one of your workers is handicapped, no one can force you to build an elevator. It's true that the exemption doesn't apply to health care facilities or shopping malls or buildings four stories and up -- and Paul, who has an ophthalmology practice, may have been thinking of those provisions when he insisted that businesses are "often forced to put in elevators."

Trouble is, we searched far and wide for a single instance in which a private employer was successfully sued under the ADA for failing to provide an elevator, or was compelled by a lawsuit to do so, and we came up empty. We searched the case law, contacted ADA experts -- both proponents and opponents of the law -- the Justice Department, and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Not one of them knew of any case involving the government-ordered installation of an elevator. It looks like Rand Paul is either peddling a myth or spinning some vanishingly small number of elevator installations we've yet to hear of into an epidemic big-government overreach.


http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_05/023929.php

 
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Salty

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Not really. I gave you about 20 links to the topic. Of course you refused to look at any of them. I was not surprised that you did not read any of them. ...

Which link states that Paul specifically wants to end the ADA - NOT what a reporter is trying to make it sound what Paul is saying - ie putting words into his mouth.
As I stated before - he wants to make reasonable changes to the ADA.
 

OldRegular

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The Bush tax cuts for Middle Americans, helped them to keep more of their hard earned money.

Some things I found on the internet that the Republicans sponsered which helped all Americans,

Starting a little more than 50 years ago, but some big ones...
1954 - establishing the federal highway system. (Ike)
1957 - Civil Rights Act (Ike -Nixon)
also 1957 - ending racial segregation in Little Rock
1964 - Wilderness act of 1964, one of the greatest conservation achievements of the 20th century.
1970 - National Environmental Policy Act, establishing the EPA. This was not legislation but Nixon through an order.
1975 - Motor Vehicle Fuel Efficiency (CAFE) standards.
1980 - Roth IRA established.
1981 - Reagan tax cuts that caused an economic boom (sadly Congress spent too much of it and created a large national debt)
1994 - Contract with America. Probably the last time in recent history that politicians actually did what they said they would do. CLEAR contrast with today.
1996 - welfare reform. Clinton vetoed it, then turned around and signed it. Obviously it's very different now, with welfare spending spiraling out of control.
2004 - Vouchers for DC school children. Allowed DC children to escape the horribly failed public school system in DC and go to private schools. It has since been killed by Democrats under pressure from unions.

Good post but you left out one important fact. the Civil Rights Law of 1964 would not have been passed had it not been for Republican support!
 

HankD

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OK so I came right to the end of the thread so maybe someone already mentioned this:

Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican - freed the slaves.

HankD
 

revmwc

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OK so I came right to the end of the thread so maybe someone already mentioned this:

Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican - freed the slaves.

HankD

No one did that I know of but the OP said in the last 50 years.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Not really. I gave you about 20 links to the topic. Of course you refused to look at any of them. I was not surprised that you did not read any of them.

Try doing a bit of research and you will find I was right. Rand's comments have been shown to not stand up to fact checking. Don't believe me? Look it up for yourself.



I did more research than you did. He never said it. Give it up.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I don't have to. You said he wanted it abolished. You don't get to change your words now that you've been caught. Be a man for once.
 

Crabtownboy

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I don't have to. You said he wanted it abolished. You don't get to change your words now that you've been caught. Be a man for once.

You gave your opinion with nothing to back it up. You day you don't have to simply because you cannot produce.

I gave many links saying RP wants to do away with ADA. Of course as this done not fit your beliefs you want it not to be true, so you give one-liners and opinion ... but nothing else.

I bet you have done no research at all. If you had and had found something saying he is in favor of ADA you would have posted it. But as you did nothing all you can do is give you uninformed opinion.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Rand Paul has never said he wanted to abolish the ADA. You can caterwaul all you wish to. If you're not going to be honest about this I'm certainly not going to be so stupid as to engage you on the last challenge. Take it back and we can continue.
 
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Salty

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I gave many links saying RP wants to do away with ADA. .

He did NOT say that -
He only wants to see some changes.

Please provide the link - where he specifically state that.
A you tube of Paul speaking would be an excellent post!
 

Crabtownboy

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He did NOT say that -
He only wants to see some changes.

Please provide the link - where he specifically state that.
A you tube of Paul speaking would be an excellent post!

Salty, one you tube video that might be condemning or helping him cannot be heard. The audio is claimed to be copyrighted by someone and it has been deleted. If you can lip read maybe you can make it out.

The only other one I have found is at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZvPugEqXe8

Here he talks about forcing small businesses to install elevators. He makes a big thing out of this. However, he seem to be ignorant of the law in that no where in ADA are elevators mandated in any way. So his point is mute as it does not address a real issue.

I think he really waffles on his answer. But after all he is a politician.
 
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