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Name something not in the Bible that you were taught at church...

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loDebar

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Prove something isn't wrong and that's not in the Bible?

What?
So me where basis of this belief. I understand where wings are involved because "angels" fly in the OT vision Jeremiah?

but where is the verses that lead to Christians becoming angels
 

loDebar

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That anyone can be saved.
Luk 19:10

For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

The position you repeat is illogical. It is like saying milks on sale at the grocery store. All who buy the milk are determined before time to get the discount. Those who don't buy the milk are not determined to get the discount. There is no extra milk available to anyone.

and only those who get the milk know no one else get the milk.

Did you notice no one of the non elect believe in election,? It is ego .
 

Reformed1689

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Luk 19:10

For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

The position you repeat is illogical. It is like saying milks on sale at the grocery store. All who buy the milk are determined before time to get the discount. Those who don't buy the milk are not determined to get the discount. There is no extra milk available to anyone.

and only those who get the milk know no one else get the milk.

Did you notice no one of the non elect believe in election,? It is ego .
Right because election is not in Scripture, oh wait.....

That being said your aren't even making an equivalent comparison.
 

loDebar

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Right because election is not in Scripture, oh wait.....

That being said your aren't even making an equivalent comparison.

Election for salvation is denied in scripture, you continue to call God a respecter of persons

Election for certain service is confirmed in scripture,

Does God lie and is a respecter of persons?
 

InTheLight

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So me where basis of this belief. I understand where wings are involved because "angels" fly in the OT vision Jeremiah?

but where is the verses that lead to Christians becoming angels

There aren't any. You asked that the part about Christians becoming angels when they die needed to be proven wrong.
 

kyredneck

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"Spare the rod and spoil the child"
MB

Well, that saying is very true and definitely amounts to a 'paraphrase' of several passages such as:

24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son; But he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. Prov 13

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The rod and reproof give wisdom; But a child left to himself causeth shame to his mother. Prov 29

15 Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; But the rod of correction shall drive it far from him. Prov 22

13 Withhold not correction from the child; For if thou beat him with the rod, he will not die.
14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, And shalt deliver his soul from Sheol. Prov 23
 

Van

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Someone posted it is not useful to cite disputed doctrine, like someone saying Calvinism"s first four points are not in the Bible.

So turning to myths that are not controversial, nativity scenes with the wise men. I think they came some time later and Jesus was in a "house." (Matthew 2:11)
 

MB

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that is in the Bible

Pro 22:15

Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Pro 29:15

The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.
that is in the Bible

Pro 22:15

Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Pro 29:15

The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.
Thats what the preacher said.
MB
 

Reformed1689

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I was an Arminian, Dispensationalist, Pentecostal. And I proved all of it to be unscriptural.
Correct on two points.
if you say He a respecter of person and He says He is not... you call Him untrue
Where does he say he is not a respector of persons? And in what context? And what do YOU mean when you say respector of persons. Remember I said that he does not treat all equally, which is abundantly true and observed in Scripture.
 
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