Netanyahu Speech

[Crabtownboy]

According to what I'm seeing out of Israel, nothing changed with this speech. It wasn't for the Ayatollah or Putin.

It was primarily a speech to assure his conservative supporters in Israel. Netanyahu is first and foremost a politician and politicians worry most about the next election. Israel has an election coming up in about a month.

Netanyahu is the man who in 1993 prophesied that Iran would attack Israel before 1999. He has used "They are about to get the bomb" for at least 20 years, not because he believes it, but to use fear to help win elections.

"The most dangerous threat to Israel's existence does not lie in the Arab countries – but in Iran," then-MK Benjamin Netanyahu wrote in a Yedioth Ahronoth column in February 1993.


"The rulers of Iran have said repeatedly that they will have an Islamic bomb and that its first target is Israel," he argued in a piece titled "The greatest danger," claiming that Iran will develop its first nuclear bomb by 1999 – 16 years ago.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4633272,00.html

 

[church mouse guy]

Deuteronomy 31:6 (KJV) Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he [it is] that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.

 

[kyredneck]

....Then another thundering, shouting standing O from congress....

I wouldn't get too excited about all these standing ovations, as before and always, AIPAC was present WATCHING to see which congressmen are present and which congressmen stood up and applauded Netanyahu.
http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=2196614#post2196614
"It will become a matter of score-keeping as to who stands up and applauds and who doesn't."

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=2196541#post2196541
"Yarmuth describes the power of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, in Congress"

 

[kyredneck]

Deuteronomy 31:6 (KJV) Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he [it is] that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.

Deuteronomy 31 (ASV):
16 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and play the harlot after the strange gods of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.
17 Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall come upon them; so that they will say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us because our God is not among us?
29 For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do that which is evil in the sight of Jehovah, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands.

 

[church mouse guy]

Deuteronomy 31:6 (KJV) Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he [it is] that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.

This is the KJV translation of the verse that Netanyahu ended his speech with. He recited it in Hebrew and then translated it into English but he did not use the KJV. He referenced a relief of Moses in the chamber, as you know.

 

[kyredneck]

He chose very poorly with Dt 31-32.

 

[HankD]

I wouldn't get too excited about all these standing ovations, as before and always, AIPAC was present WATCHING to see which congressmen are present and which congressmen stood up and applauded Netanyahu.
http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=2196614#post2196614
"It will become a matter of score-keeping as to who stands up and applauds and who doesn't."

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=2196541#post2196541
"Yarmuth describes the power of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, in Congress"

Personally, I suspect some chahuts going on.
Yes, right,left and everything inbetween in a propoganda feeding frenzy.

I believe BiBi and Obama Hussein had a lttle chat (or two) and tweeked the speech before final delivery.


HankD

 

[OldRegular]

It was primarily a speech to assure his conservative supporters in Israel. Netanyahu is first and foremost a politician and politicians worry most about the next election. Israel has an election coming up in about a month.

Netanyahu is the man who in 1993 prophesied that Iran would attack Israel before 1999. He has used "They are about to get the bomb" for at least 20 years, not because he believes it, but to use fear to help win elections.



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You make him sound like a lying democrat!

 

[kyredneck]

Personally, I suspect some chahuts going on.
Yes, right,left and everything inbetween in a propoganda feeding frenzy.

I believe BiBi and Obama Hussein had a lttle chat (or two) and tweeked the speech before final delivery.

HankD

If so, such cooperation would be encouraging. Some Iranians already suspect this:

Netanyahu Speech Has Eager Audience in Iran

"...Still, some in Iran had a different interpretation. “The rift between both allies is nothing more than a political trick,” said Mr. Taraghi, the Iranian political analyst. “This so-called rift is a petty game of good cop, bad cop. We will not fall for that.”..."

 

[Bro. James]

Some facts of life regarding the U.S. and the Middle East:

1. Our main interest is in the flow of oil--which is also the financial lifeline of ISIS and other terrorists. Some depend on oil and opium.

2. The U.S. has helped set up and support oil barons and other not so benevolent dictators for decades. Motive: oil flow stability.

3. The followers of Allah have never been our friends--but rather our adversaries since the gitgo. They are guided by the master of deception.
Just who we follow is not readily apparent. Our amorality is about to devour us.

4. The rift between Allah and Jehovah goes back to the days of Abraham and his first born son: Ishmael. The son of the promise, Isaac and present day Israel are contending for the same promised land as the progeny of Ishmael.

5. Israel as a nation rejected Jesus to His face. They still consider Jesus to be the son of a Roman soldier by an harlot. Yet, His last words included: "Father, forgive them, they know not what they do."

6. The Lord scattered Israel all over the world in 70 A.D. The First Church at Jerusalem was also scattered. The Lord gathered Israel in 1948. He keeps them even until today, even though they continue to reject Jesus. The Church will be gathered soon: The Marriage Supper of The Lamb.

7. The Lord is in control, still on His throne, still executing His Will per His plan.

8. The Lord will take care of His children, even if it takes blood on the doorposts.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

[HankD]

3. The followers of Allah have never been our friends--but rather our adversaries since the gitgo. They are guided by the master of deception.
Just who we follow is not readily apparent. Our amorality is about to devour us.

4. The rift between Allah and Jehovah goes back to the days of Abraham and his first born son: Ishmael. The son of the promise, Isaac and present day Israel are contending for the same promised land as the progeny of Ishmael.

Genesis 16
11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

HankD

 

[kyredneck]

Iran is Persia, or Media, descendants of Madai son of Japheth, not Abraham.

 

[777]

According to what I'm seeing out of Israel, nothing changed with this speech. It wasn't for the Ayatollah or Putin.

The Congress of the USA doesn't get to make that call.That depends on the President, not Congress.

Not really - the POTUS leads foreign policy but rarely does so unilaterally:

http://constitution.findlaw.com/article2/annotation12.html

He's not a king but Obama looked small and petty yesterday. Bibi got what he wanted, a free and running campaign commercial.

It was primarily a speech to assure his conservative supporters in Israel. Netanyahu is first and foremost a politician and politicians worry most about the next election. Israel has an election coming up in about a month.

Netanyahu is the man who in 1993 prophesied that Iran would attack Israel before 1999. He has used "They are about to get the bomb" for at least 20 years, not because he believes it, but to use fear to help win elections.

Bibi said that in 1993 that Iran would have nukes and use them IF the then-current course of action didn't change, but it did.

The early voting starts today and this was an attempt on Bibi's part to shore up the votes of the dual citizens in the US. Bet it worked.

 

[HankD]

Iran is Persia, or Media, descendants of Madai son of Japheth, not Abraham.

Ishmael is the father of the Arabs.

HankD

 

[Zaac]

Not really - the POTUS leads foreign policy but rarely does so unilaterally:

http://constitution.findlaw.com/article2/annotation12.html

Of course it's not unilateral. He has advisors. But the LEGISLATIVE branch has no say in the DIRECTION of our foreign policy. That's all the President.

Boehner invited Netanyahu because he wants to change the President's foreign policy direction.

He's not a king but Obama looked small and petty yesterday. Bibi got what he wanted, a free and running campaign commercial.

He looked more Presidential than he ever has because he didn't attend and didn't indulge the foolishness nor bow down to the almost treasonous attempt of a US Congressman to try and use another head of state to change US foreign policy.

This is one time where I think he actually acted Presidential.

 

[kyredneck]

Ishmael is the father of the Arabs.

HankD

Yea, I know.

 

[Rolfe]

He looked more Presidential than he ever has because he didn't attend and didn't indulge the foolishness nor bow down to the almost treasonous attempt of a US Congressman to try and use another head of state to change US foreign policy.

This is one time where I think he actually acted Presidential.

Obama has, in the past, appeared petty by his personal treatment of Israel's PM. His reaction to the news of his visit, and comments afterward, appear consistent with that animosity. Presidential? No.

 

[kyredneck]

4. The rift between Allah and Jehovah goes back to the days of Abraham and his first born son: Ishmael......

IMO, you're about 24 centuries off here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1590535#post1590535

 

[Zaac]

Obama has, in the past, appeared petty by his personal treatment of Israel's PM. His reaction to the news of his visit, and comments afterward, appear consistent with that animosity. Presidential? No.

I still think he appeared Presidential. It's rare to see him do something where I agree with how he handled it. This time, I believe he was correct. Netanyahu should not have been here making a speech before Congress.

He didn't allow himself to be bullied by another head of state. I like that.

We can be allies, but that doesn't mean you get to dictate the direction of our foreign policy.

Netanyahu did just as Obama said: he didn't say anything new and he didn't offer any other solutions. The speech served no purpose other than partisan politics here and in Israel.

 

[ShagNappy]

IMO, you're about 24 centuries off here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1590535#post1590535

Jeez... did a Jew steal your teddy bear when you were little?