You are in full fledged tantrum mode. The abortion fallback is such a cop out for you. Be honest, you care more about beating Democrats than abortion itself and it is obvious. Here is a little secret. There are many Republicans politicians that deep down don’t want the abortion issue resolved because they need the issue to be present come election time so they can beat people over the head with it the way you are trying to do here. Abortion will always be there until people actually want to take a shot at it. Looking at you Mr. President.
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Never trust Bannon over Trump again
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You are in full fledged tantrum mode. The abortion fallback is such a cop out for you. Be honest, you care more about beating Democrats than abortion itself and it is obvious. Here is a little secret. There are many Republicans politicians that deep down don’t want the abortion issue resolved because they need the issue to be present come election time so they can beat people over the head with it the way you are trying to do here. Abortion will always be there until people actually want to take a shot at it. Looking at you Mr. President.
Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks Announces he has Prostate Cancer
The 4-term Republican Congressman, who ran in the 2017 GOP Senate primary, says ‘Losing the Senate race may have saved my life.", as he was able to have the tests done to detect the cancer.
Alabama Rep Mo Brooks Announces Prostate Cancer | C-SPAN.org
We all should be, if we're truly Christians and care about this issue. The Senate is the only means to making abortion illegal. You're rooting for the guy that wants to block it.
We kill a baby every 33 seconds if my calculations are correct. God will judge our country and the Church in America of we keep on this path.
Are you actually describing yourself on this one? I believe this is true of the phony conservatives on this board. But the Senate disproved your theory when they all approved the nomination of Gorsuch. They wouldn't have done that if they were secretly pro-choice. We are one appointment away from changing the law. You and ITL and hoping against hope we fail.
He also said he thought he was making a mistake backing Strange.
Which" good instinct" are you talking about? The one he thought was a mistake or the one where he backed Moore immediately after the primary.
Ann Coulter: Why I Secretly Wanted Roy Moore to Lose — Brooks 2020! - Breitbart
Rep. Mo Brooks was the true Trumpian candidate in Alabama, which is why I endorsed him in the primary (here, here and here). When the accusations against Roy Moore first arose, I proposed that the president make a deal to replace Moore with Brooks.
Obviously, the GOP would be in a much better position right now if only Republicans had learned to hang on my every word.
Instead, everyone did exactly the wrong thing, and they got the worst of all possible worlds.
Everyone who screwed the pooch on this one better realize fast: All that matters is immigration. It’s all that matters to the country, and it’s all that matters for winning elections.
“Anti-establishment” is not a winning issue. Without immigration as the GOP’s lodestar, every election will be a rerun of the Tea Party from 2010 to 2012, when Republicans lost Senate seat after Senate seat, entirely in unforced errors.
Rep. Mo Brooks was the true Trumpian candidate in Alabama, which is why I endorsed him in the primary (here, here and here). When the accusations against Roy Moore first arose, I proposed that the president make a deal to replace Moore with Brooks.
Obviously, the GOP would be in a much better position right now if only Republicans had learned to hang on my every word.
Instead, everyone did exactly the wrong thing, and they got the worst of all possible worlds.
Everyone who screwed the pooch on this one better realize fast: All that matters is immigration. It’s all that matters to the country, and it’s all that matters for winning elections.
“Anti-establishment” is not a winning issue. Without immigration as the GOP’s lodestar, every election will be a rerun of the Tea Party from 2010 to 2012, when Republicans lost Senate seat after Senate seat, entirely in unforced errors.
Trump backed Strange. To say anything else is revisionist history.
Of course he got behind Moore when he won. To do otherwise would have undermined his chances. But Trump's instincts were right on the money. Better than Bannon's better than Breitbart staff's, better than yours. I personally was pulling for Strange in the primary. Got a lot of flack for it, but knew Trump knew what he was doing. Trust me, after this, he has everyone's ear.
And I also believe this is all going to work out for the best. With Moore in, it would have been a difficult road forward. Now the seat will be up again in 2 years and Moore will likely not run again.
Aaaaand copy and paste. So because Doug Jones beat Moore the pro-life campaign is dead all of a sudden? Hardly. Get outta here with your consistently lying about others and what they are and are not rooting for. It has been permitted for far too long. You’re hysteria means nothing to me.
To deny he said he thought he was making a mistake backing Strange is , at the least, disingenious and complete denial of the facts at the worst.
But , when it comes to Trump, that's to be expected from you.
It's always a pity when a smart guy puts his brain aside to back anyone.
Puleeeeeazzzzze. Just stop. You support candidates that foam at the mouth against the unborn. The only way you would back ending RvW is if it somehow endangered your own life. Only then would you vote for pro-life candidates.
I never denied he said that. I thought it myself. But if it was his choice, his instincts told him to back Strange, and that's what he did. All of us hoped Moore would work out. All of us, including Trump, hoped his instincts were wrong. But they weren't.
Your history on Trump is clear. Whenever the road gets tough you bail. I'd never want to be in your foxhole. You're weak in the knees. Buck up, it's a long journey.
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KenH
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I hope Roe v. Wade is overturned(I am doubtful it will be, but it might be). However, that simply returns the issue to the states and lots of states will keep abortion legal and travel is easy in this country. So reversal will do little to nothing to reduce abortion, certainly far less than preaching and teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ will do.
No, I don't believe it's dead. But it was injured. The Senate is everything. No Senate majority, not success against RvW. You've been working against this. You are pro-abortion in deed (despite what you say).
I'm optimistic. If Moore had won, he would be up for reelection again in 2 years, and the circus would start over. We'll have a good candidate in 2 years and get that seat back. Guaranteed.
Uh, no.... The proof is in the pudding (your vote).
This is kind of like those who "identify as (fill in the blank)"
KenH
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I believe your optimism is misplaced. The Bible has a much better place for optimism:
“It is better to take refuge in the Lord than to trust in princes.” - Psalms 118:9 ESV
Indeed, but it also says if you know the good to do and do not do it, you are in sin. And if you are in sin, you are not taking refuge in the Lord.
You see, you are being brave with the lives of others—with babies, in fact. If RvW was a threat to you, you'd be on these boards railing against it every day. Please vote to save my life! But it's not your life that's at stake. So you're bravely trusting in the Lord. Trust me, God sees through this.
Trumps road is really tough right now with a razor thin advantage in the Senate, and it's as much his fault as anyones. Coulter is right, Trump backed the wrong guy from the get go. He should have backed Brooks, the guy most in line with his agenda.
Instead he was indecisive and listened to bad advice when he backed Strange to appease the establishment. Instincts had nothing to do with it. It was simply a bad decision. Appeasement against your own principles and agenda never pays off. He has to learn this is also true in the political arena.
KenH
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I am surprised that you would quote Ann Coulter who tweeted this in 2015 in her support of Trump’s immigration plan:
“I don't care if @realDonaldTrump wants to perform abortions in White House after this immigration policy paper“