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New Birth Contrasts and Consequences

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Darrell C

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I said all that.....so where did I say they were Non Christians?

I'm not sure you understand the correlation of condemning churches in your area as not having Christ, not having the Spirit, and simply serving self interest with the underlying implication that they are non-Christian.

I think some good points have been made on both sides of this rabbit trail, that it is reasonable to understand why one would find local churches lacking, and also that it is understandable that a fellowship would not want to support what from all appearances might come across as a rogue believer that has an attitude towards the Church in general.

But, like I said from the beginning, I see nothing wrong with fellow-shipping in the home, if that is what it takes to have you involved in Christian fellow-ship. My advice, was, and still is, go ahead, keep at it, just be careful of the condemning tone you are expressing. I think most are going to question the thought that in your area...God has no-one in whose lives He has been working. Take a lesson from Isaiah, and consider that in your area there might just be those God has reserved unto Himself, who have not bowed the knee to Baal. Take a lesson from Jonah and Peter, and understand that those you condemn are still in God's sights.

It may be God is using to start something new in your area, and if so, I rejoice with you. But, keep in mind that every new sect, new denomination, new cult...also had its beginning with people not satisfied with what was being taught and practiced in their day.

So relax, and try to be a little less vocal in condemning those that in all likelihood belong to God, and have no less faults than you yourself have.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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I'm trying to help you, brother.

I would not have quoted you if you hadn't asked me to.

I tried to swing it back to topic.


God bless.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I'm not sure you understand the correlation of condemning churches in your area as not having Christ, not having the Spirit, and simply serving self interest with the underlying implication that they are non-Christian.

I think some good points have been made on both sides of this rabbit trail, that it is reasonable to understand why one would find local churches lacking, and also that it is understandable that a fellowship would not want to support what from all appearances might come across as a rogue believer that has an attitude towards the Church in general.

But, like I said from the beginning, I see nothing wrong with fellow-shipping in the home, if that is what it takes to have you involved in Christian fellow-ship. My advice, was, and still is, go ahead, keep at it, just be careful of the condemning tone you are expressing. I think most are going to question the thought that in your area...God has no-one in whose lives He has been working. Take a lesson from Isaiah, and consider that in your area there might just be those God has reserved unto Himself, who have not bowed the knee to Baal. Take a lesson from Jonah and Peter, and understand that those you condemn are still in God's sights.

It may be God is using to start something new in your area, and if so, I rejoice with you. But, keep in mind that every new sect, new denomination, new cult...also had its beginning with people not satisfied with what was being taught and practiced in their day.

So relax, and try to be a little less vocal in condemning those that in all likelihood belong to God, and have no less faults than you yourself have.


God bless.

Thanks for the plug.
 

Darrell C

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Im trying to conduct a business now & Im short handed.

You're preaching to the choir. Nearly everyone I have ever hired has stolen from me, whether it was directly stealing tangible materials, or their failure to do work for which I was paying them for.

Hopefully, in a little over a week now, I have a man coming on to take over the service department, which will take a load off of me. This is someone I can trust, because...I raised him from a babe, literally, lol. My nephew.

Few perks to being a business owner, despite popular belief, but, I am hoping that this will work out as I see it can, and there is no reason to think it will not.

Good luck to you in yours.


God bless.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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You're preaching to the choir. Nearly everyone I have ever hired has stolen from me, whether it was directly stealing tangible materials, or their failure to do work for which I was paying them for.

Hopefully, in a little over a week now, I have a man coming on to take over the service department, which will take a load off of me. This is someone I can trust, because...I raised him from a babe, literally, lol. My nephew.

Few perks to being a business owner, despite popular belief, but, I am hoping that this will work out as I see it can, and there is no reason to think it will not.

Good luck to you in yours.


God bless.

FYI....on the wall I get to look at is a black & white pic of the Chesapeake bridge. I spent some times in Roanoke & VA Beach.... I love it there! FLA not so much but my wife insists on making that our new home. I gotta go where God leads.
 

Darrell C

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FYI....on the wall I get to look at is a black & white pic of the Chesapeake bridge. I spent some times in Roanoke & VA Beach.... I love it there! FLA not so much but my wife insists on making that our new home.

I use to hate Virginia when I came here as a kid, but not sure there is anywhere else I would want to live at this point (though a nice seaside cottage off the coast of the UK has always interested me (but I'm not leaving the US! lol)). We have mountains, and coastline, and rolling hills as well.

I gotta go where God leads.

Yes, well, what the Boss has to say about it counts too, lol.

Speaking of going, time for me to get myself busy.


God bless.
 

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The Biblicist

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Your Church??? I thought it was Gods church.

Maybe you have just touched on the problem.
You are simply being evasive and refusing to address the question. It is "my" church and its is "our" church and it is "God's" church. It is "my" church because that is where "my" membership resides. It is "our" church because it is composed of many others. It is God's church because it was constituted according to God's Word and operates according to God' word and worships according to God's Word.

Stop evading the question and simply answer it.
 

The Biblicist

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:D.... Im not nuts. And I dont want to do this. Im a big sinner.....broken every commandment including murder & fornication...... So why would call upon me? When you think about it, yea maybe it is nuts.:D
Again, evasive answers that have nothing to do with the question I asked. I asked you what is the basis for thinking God is telling you to do precisely what Paul as our example did not do? Did you have a dream? a feeling? Did God speak to you? How do you know its God's leadership?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Again, evasive answers that have nothing to do with the question I asked. I asked you what is the basis for thinking God is telling you to do precisely what Paul as our example did not do? Did you have a dream? a feeling? Did God speak to you? How do you know its God's leadership?

I have already answered the question.
 
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