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You read Greek Tim..... They are working on overhauling the very thing your evaluating. Tim isnt the only one who has told me that (from a high office level of the Southern Campus.) much has to be considered though....so I choose to wait for it.....I seriously consider NCT as a beta test site & Im not really impressed. Waiting for REV 2. :smilewinkgrin:

 

I don't understand this entire discussion. Is New Covenant Theology new? Not in my view. In Romans Paul contrasts being under the Law, which in my understanding is under the first covenant, versus being under Grace, the second covenant established by the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. The oulier perspective, in my view, is Dispensationalism which in its most extreme form says that portions of the New Testament do not appy to Christians today. Can someone explain what is new about New Covenant Theology?

 

I asked that same question.....I got a complicated answer in return ....which leads me to believe its repackaged & not new. The pastor basically told me that if I joined the church that Id get a 3 month course on it & other church doctrine. Huh!:smilewinkgrin:

 

simple version:
Paul does not contrast law/grace....as you are stating it. There is always grace and law.

NCT are those who want to believe in the 5 pts, but do not want to obey the fourth commandment...see the earlier link s offered to understand the issue

 

what is main difference from NCT and say Historical pre mil viewpoint as regarding the scriptures?

 

http://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopup.asp?SID=111605162223

 

Not much except the latter is an eschatology whereas the former is an inclusive system (lack of a better term) of many categories including eschatology (broadly). One can be a premill or Amill in NCT. The system does not dictate a specific eschatological view.

 

www.tms.edu/tmsj/tmsj18j.pdf

 

NCT may be on the rise in Southern Baptist circles, but then again, most SBC Calvinists are Reformed only in their soteriology. The guards are at the gates among 1689 Reformed Baptists. The reason I say "1689 Reformed Baptists" is because most NCT's will not subscribe to the 1689 LBC. The 1689 articulates the Covenant of Works and the Covenant of Grace. NCT's have a problem with the Covenant of Works. You will find them subscribing to the 1644/46 LBC since it is not as detailed and is weak on CT.

 

Tim,

I think "Kingdom through Covenant" is a "wannabe". There are quite a few inquiring minds in the SBC who see the shortcomings of dispensationalism and progressive dispensationalism, but they are not Reformed in any sense of the word. Many are not even Calvinists. They are going through a "systematic theology identity crisis". It is another attempt to carve out a niche that will accommodate existing theological presuppositions. That is how NCT came into being.

 

Can you simply reply to the clear (to me) theology that Paul expressed in Romans and is spread throughout the New Testament? Dispinsationalism is the outlier, unproven belief not the new covenant expressed in the Bible.

 

Absolutely. This wae beautifully expresses by Jesus when He said:

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I call this New Covenant theology. It is very simple. Jesus is the only way.

 

Then why not throw the theology nonsence away altogether and then worship the new testiment Christ?

 

You are describing Presbyterian, or paedobaptist, Covenant Theology. There is also a Baptist Covenant Theology that is not NCT. This theology has existed since the 17th Century. Pascal Denault writes:

He then goes on to say:

At first I read this with a bit of suspicion. Is not the New Covenant a completely new covenant? Hence, discontinuity of the covenants. But Denault employed a unique definition of Baptist discontinuity.

This is what Denault means when he says, "One covenant revealed progressively and concluded formerly under the New Covenant." The New Covenant is, indeed, a completely new covenant that was promised in the Old. He takes care to measure terms, and separate promise from realization. So, Baptist Covenant Theology disagrees with the one covenant, two administrations view of paedobaptists. You may want to revisit Baptist Covenant Theology.

 

Christ is the substance of both Testaments. While the New Covenant is not enacted until Christ's resurrection, it was promised back in Genesis 3:15. The Old Testament, and theology in general, is of great value since it reveals Christ.