Next US President a Mormon?

[KenH]

When you flip flop on the issues, and in my opinion, do it just to get votes, that shows lack of morals.

Why and where did you get the idea that moral compass = adultery or sexual sin?

I don't consider choosing life to be a flip-flop. Goodness gracious, I hope we don't want everyone to remain pro-abortion just so they can avoid the charge of flip-flopping.

Also, it is my opinion that Mitt did not choose life just to get votes.

When I hear the word "morals", I think of sexual conduct.

Merry Christmas to you and yours, also.

 

[Terry_Herrington]

I don't think being a Mormon should have any bearing on whether or not one supports Mitt Romney. As has been stated, the Constitution declares that there be no religious test for holding public office; I don't see any reason to try and apply one now. Also, since Mr. Romeny has held public office before, I would think it would be imperative for someone to show how he has consulted with Mormon church officials in the past and how this has adversely affected this judgment in his past decisions while in office.

I would not vote for Romeny, but the fact that he is a Mormon has nothing to do with this decision.

 

[Eric B]

Aside from that, there is no way I am going to vote for POTUS a person who gives Jesus Christ less status than the full divinity of God, Christ being God.

During the 1960 election, the same talk went around about Kennedy. It was quite the topic of conversation at our house. Looking back on it, the Catholic church did not enter into the decisions. However, there is a vast difference between the way the Catholic church views Jesus and the way the Mormons view Jesus.

Mormons are free to worship as they please in America. They can do anything with Jesus Christ they please. However, when it comes to my vote, do I want someone who is a member of a cult that assigns Jesus Christ to some limbo status between total divinity and mortal man? It seems for someone to be in that office with that mindset would have affects we cannot even understand. There is enough problems for Christians in relation to government without someone at the helm that thinks Jesus is some super angel.

Aren't most other presidents at best nominal? They may have "religious (denominational) backgrounds" that officially acknowledge the deity of Christ, but don't they themselves generally take a watered down view of Christ? People were so shocked about Bush letting a Muslim pray in the White House, or whatever that uproar a few months ago was about, but then to be in any public office, you generally have to echo the common view of society, which is at best, that Jesus was just a good man, and all religions are equal. Reagan even less seemed like a born again Christian. Most of these people are "cultural Christians", and perhaps no more orthodox than Mormons (who are at least more serious about their beliefs).

The question that a Mormon raises to me is would he be trying to legalize polygamy? I guess that's better than homosexual marriage, but I'll bet the former would be blocked bu the rest of the government, as the latter continues to gain ground!)

 

[saturneptune]

Unless you have some proof to present that Mitt has committed adultery or some other sexual sin then your statement is false and as a Christian you should repent and retract it.

It is my prayer that the Republican Party will nominate Mitt to be its presidential candidate in 2008 and that he will be sworn in as president of the United States on January 20, 2009.

Baloney, I have NOTHING to repent for in not supporting a candidate that treats Jesus Christ as some sort of second hand god. He did support abortion. Nothing to retract or repent for. You go right ahead. Maybe Mitt is an oil company apologist, I dont know. One thing I will guarantee you, he will not get this state's electoral votes.

 

[KenH]

One thing I will guarantee you, he will not get this state's electoral votes.

Care to make a bet about that. Let's see how confident you really are or if you are just a noise maker. I have a neat(non-monetary) bet in mind if you are interested.

Merry Christmas to you and yours, saturneptune.

 

[KenH]

Baloney, I have NOTHING to repent for in not supporting a candidate

Nor should you. You should repent of calling a man immoral when you have no proof.

 

[saturneptune]

Care to make a bet about that. Let's see how confident you really are or if you are just a noise maker. I have a neat(non-monetary) bet in mind if you are interested.

Merry Christmas to you and yours, saturneptune.

Merry Christmas to you and yours also. When I say this state's electoral votes, I mean Kentucky. No, I do not mean Arkansas, look at the history in presidential politics there.

But yes, if you mean a non monetary bet for Kentucky electoral votes in 2008 by Mitt Romney, sure, you got a bet.

 

[KenH]

But yes, if you mean a non monetary bet for Kentucky electoral votes in 2008 by Mitt Romney, sure, you got a bet.

Good. I agree. If Mitt Romney is the GOP presidential nominee in 2008 and fails to win Kentucky's electoral votes, then I will not post on Baptist Board for 3 months starting on the day after the election. If Mitt Romney is the GOP presidential nominee in 2008 and wins Kentucky's electoral votes, then you will not post on Baptist Board for 3 months starting the day after the election.

 

[saturneptune]

Good. I agree. If Mitt Romney is the GOP presidential nominee in 2008 and fails to win Kentucky's electoral votes, then I will not post on Baptist Board for 3 months starting on the day after the election. If Mitt Romney is the GOP presidential nominee in 2008 and wins Kentucky's electoral votes, then you will not post on Baptist Board for 3 months starting the day after the election.

OK, Mr Nostrodomis, agreed. Since I have a very hard time keeping my mouth shut, it is my sincere prayer I win :laugh:

 

[Scarlett O.]

Let me interject a little needed levity here.

I read sometimes too quickly. Every time I scanned the "today's posts" I thought this thread read "Next US President a Moron?"

:laugh:

(guess you had to be there......)

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Next US President a Mormon?

Naw! I think she is a Southern Baptist.

Does anyone know what denomination President Clinton is?

Joseph Botwinick

 

[KenH]

Hillary Clinton is a United Methodist.

Bill Clinton is a Southern Baptist.

 

[Ed Edwards]

Let me interject a little needed levity here.

I read sometimes too quickly. Every time I scanned the "today's posts" I thought this thread read "Next US President a Moron?"

:laugh:

(guess you had to be there......)

Sorry, Sister Scarlet O -- your humor is six years late.

- Ed, No USonian Dynasties :sleep:

 

[El_Guero]

While I pray that our country will not be lead by a Mormon, we have slid into such great depravity that I believe that God has removed His protection and guidance from us. We are becoming, if we have not already become, no more than any other secular and evil state.

 

[LadyEagle]

3-page warning: This thread will be closed no sooner than 3:30 a.m. ET by one of the moderators.

Lady Eagle

 

[KenH]

We are becoming, if we have not already become, no more than any other secular and evil state.

We have been a secular state ever since July 4, 1776.

It is really silly for people to be popping off every time things don't go their way politically to whip out this trite phrase that "God had removed His protection and guidance from us" and then when things go their way politically to whip out the phrase that "our country has turned back to God".

Sometimes I think that Christians are as fickle as the worst sports fans are.

 

[JamieinNH]

I believe that God has removed His protection and guidance from us.

When you say us, do you mean us as in Christians? or do you mean the USA?

When and Where did God state he would protect the USA?

Just because this country was found on the freedom of Religion, what makes us believe that it had God's hand in it including his protection?

Is there a verse I missed?

Jamie

 

[JamieinNH]

We have been a secular state ever since July 4, 1776.

It is really silly for people to be popping off every time things don't go their way politically to whip out this trite phrase that "God had removed His protection and guidance from us" and then when things go their way politically to whip out the phrase that "our country has turned back to God".

Sometimes I think that Christians are as fickle as the worst sports fans are.

Look Ken, In a Mitt thread, we are agreeing on one thought. :wavey:

Jamie

 

[KenH]

Jamie! :thumbs:

 

[hillclimber1]

While I pray that our country will not be lead by a Mormon, we have slid into such great depravity that I believe that God has removed His protection and guidance from us. We are becoming, if we have not already become, no more than any other secular and evil state.

Refreshing.......some clear thinking.

Actually the moral system of Mormons wouldn't be any worse than JFK's under RC. At least I assume that now without any real evidence. We have until recent years relied on a good measure of morality from our CIC's. But from JFK on we've been let down, with Ronald Reagan the exception. And maybe Bush the elder. Now Gerald Ford comes to mind. My theory is fading.