NFL... The Calvinist View

[Charlie24]

NO! IT'S YOUR PERVERSION OF GOD!

...in a nutshell Paul succinctly sums up the perversion of all you free-willer' wannabe 'Calvinist-slayers':

Romans Chapter 9

14​	What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbi

18​	So then he hath mercy on whom he will, and whom he will be hardeneth.
19​	Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he still find fault? For who withstandeth his will?

20​	Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why didst thou make me thus?

This could go on forever, but my posts proving TULIP to be a failed theory are not for you, or Dave G, nor Ken.

They are for the others who are trying to learn the truth of predestination from God's Word.

I intend to show them the truth.

 

[kyredneck]

my posts proving TULIP to be a failed theory

...what a vivid imagination you have, 'Calvinist-slayer'; you've proven zilch other than your confidence in the flesh and your refusal to give credit to where credit is due:

1st Corinthians Chapter 1

29​	that no flesh should glory before God.
30​	But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who was made unto us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:

 

[Charlie24]

...what a vivid imagination you have, 'Calvinist-slayer'; you've proven zilch other than your confidence in the flesh and your refusal to give credit to where credit is due:

1st Corinthians Chapter 1

29​	that no flesh should glory before God.
30​	But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who was made unto us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:

It's been normal trading pleasantries with you, ky.

It's my bedtime now.

 

[John of Japan]

I think he should have answered you with this: "Thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself." (Psalm 50:21)

That Psalm is God talking to the wicked, rebellious people of Israel. I hardly think it applies here--unless you think I'm wicked and rebellious.

If I get your drift, you think that God cannot "want" anything or "not want" anything. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But if that is your view, you are forgetting the doctrine of the "will of God." That phrase occurs in 23 verse of the NT, using two different Greek words for "will." The most common one for will is thelema (θέλημα). That usage is somewhat complicated, so I'll not go into it here. The other word is boule (βουλή), occurring 12 times in the NT, sometimes translated "counsel" and other times "will."

In Luke 7:30, the KJV has "But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel (boule) of God against themselves, being not baptized of him." The NKJV has "will of God" and the NASB has "God's purpose." So God does "want" certain things for us. A word study on thelema would bear this out. For example, I will just point out that in 1 John 2:7 "lust" and "will" are contrasted, pointing to a comparison of the two words as synonyms.