37818
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On the contrary. It is in that it is the KJV reading.
. . . which shall be born of thee . . . .
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NKJV Luke 1:35, Oops
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. . . which shall be born of thee . . . .
Alan Dale Gross
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I forgot to post this reply, or didn't hit the 'post reply' button; either way.
"His Human Nature, neither as to Soul or Body, Pre-existed His Incarnation;
"but in the Fulness of Time He was Made of a woman, and took a True Body of her, and a Reasonable Soul, into Union with His Divine Person; and "therefore should be called the Son of God":
"It ought to be observed also that Christ, because He was conceived by a Spiritual Power, is called the Holy Seed Because, as it was necessary that He should be a real Man, in order that He might Expiate our sins, and Vanquish death and Satan in our flesh; so was it necessary, in order to His Cleansing others, that He should be Free from every spot and blemish, (1 Peter 1:19.)"
• Mary’s statement is literal: she has “known no man” (cf. Matthew 1:18). The text affirms her physical virginity, making the forthcoming conception entirely miraculous.
• The virgin birth fulfills Isaiah 7:14, “Behold, the Virgin will Conceive and give birth to a Son,” anchoring Jesus’ identity as Immanuel.
• Joseph’s later confirmation—“he had no union with her until she gave birth to a Son” (Matthew 1:25)—reinforces the integrity of Mary’s testimony.
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The NKJV people used a different Textus Receptus. Right.
From your reference: Luke 1:35 - Textus Receptus.
"For each item in which the reading of the KJV differs from that of Estienne 1550, it is also indicated whether the reading of the KJV is supported by the Clementine Vulgate (Clement 1592), the Complutensian Polyglot (Stunica 1522), or by Erasmus 1527.
"The readings presumed to underlie three other early English versions, Tyndale 1535, the Geneva Bible, and the Bishops' Bible, are likewise indicated when this information may help to explain the reading of the KJV. The decisions of the later critical editors are indicated for each item."
King James Bible
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Bishops' Bible of 1568
And the Angel aunswered, & saide vnto her: The holy ghost shall come vpon thee, & the power of the hyest shall ouershadowe thee. Therefore also that holy thyng whiche shalbe borne, shalbe called the sonne of God.
They should have seen that in the King James and other Versions/ Manuscripts, if they referenced them.
Geneva Bible of 1587
And the Angel answered, & said vnto her, The holy Ghost shall come vpon thee, and the power of the most High shall ouershadowe thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall bee borne of thee, shall be called the Sonne of God.
Coverdale Bible of 1535
The angell answered, & sayde vnto her: The holy goost shal come vpon the, & the power of the Hyest shal ouershadowe the. Therfore that Holy also which shalbe borne (of the) shalbe called the sonne of God.
That has mostly be replied to already at: NKJV Luke 1:35, Oops, but additionally:
"His Human Nature, neither as to Soul or Body, Pre-existed His Incarnation;
"but in the Fulness of Time He was Made of a woman, and took a True Body of her, and a Reasonable Soul, into Union with His Divine Person; and "therefore should be called the Son of God":
"It ought to be observed also that Christ, because He was conceived by a Spiritual Power, is called the Holy Seed Because, as it was necessary that He should be a real Man, in order that He might Expiate our sins, and Vanquish death and Satan in our flesh; so was it necessary, in order to His Cleansing others, that He should be Free from every spot and blemish, (1 Peter 1:19.)"
Luke explicitly names Gabriel (Luke 1:19, 26), emphasizing that this Message comes with Divine Authority.
• Mary’s statement is literal: she has “known no man” (cf. Matthew 1:18). The text affirms her physical virginity, making the forthcoming conception entirely miraculous.
• The virgin birth fulfills Isaiah 7:14, “Behold, the Virgin will Conceive and give birth to a Son,” anchoring Jesus’ identity as Immanuel.
• Joseph’s later confirmation—“he had no union with her until she gave birth to a Son” (Matthew 1:25)—reinforces the integrity of Mary’s testimony.
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The NKJV people used a different Textus Receptus. Right.
From your reference: Luke 1:35 - Textus Receptus.
"For each item in which the reading of the KJV differs from that of Estienne 1550, it is also indicated whether the reading of the KJV is supported by the Clementine Vulgate (Clement 1592), the Complutensian Polyglot (Stunica 1522), or by Erasmus 1527.
"The readings presumed to underlie three other early English versions, Tyndale 1535, the Geneva Bible, and the Bishops' Bible, are likewise indicated when this information may help to explain the reading of the KJV. The decisions of the later critical editors are indicated for each item."
King James Bible
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Bishops' Bible of 1568
And the Angel aunswered, & saide vnto her: The holy ghost shall come vpon thee, & the power of the hyest shall ouershadowe thee. Therefore also that holy thyng whiche shalbe borne, shalbe called the sonne of God.
I thought they were supposed to be doing a Revision of the King James Bible.
They should have seen that in the King James and other Versions/ Manuscripts, if they referenced them.
Geneva Bible of 1587
And the Angel answered, & said vnto her, The holy Ghost shall come vpon thee, and the power of the most High shall ouershadowe thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall bee borne of thee, shall be called the Sonne of God.
Coverdale Bible of 1535
The angell answered, & sayde vnto her: The holy goost shal come vpon the, & the power of the Hyest shal ouershadowe the. Therfore that Holy also which shalbe borne (of the) shalbe called the sonne of God.
- LUKE 1:35:
- ΚΑΤΑ ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 1:35 καὶ ἀποκριθεὶς ὁ ἄγγελος εἶπεν αὐτῇ, Πνεῦμα Ἅγιον ἐπελεύσεται ἐπὶ σέ, καὶ δύναμις ὑψίστου ἐπισκιάσει σοι· διὸ καὶ τὸ γεννώμενον ἐκ σοῦ ἅγιον κληθήσεται υἱὸς Θεοῦ.
- Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
- Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you and the power of the Highest will over-shadow you; therefore, also, that holy One who will be born of you will be called the Son of God.
Ascetic X
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So it is important because the KJV includes it?
But the sense that a child would be born from Mary is implied without needing “of you”.
You make a big deal out of a very tiny thing.
Ben1445
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It may be perceived as nothing. It may be nothing to most people.
But let me throw in some doctrinal importance.
OT mention puts a very critical doctrine in place. The Savior is not credited to Adam’s lineage in the promise and first mention of salvation. In the genealogies, parentage is traced back to Adam. But when God is bringing salvation into the world, He does it according to the way He declared in the garden. It will be a child of a woman and not of a man.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Galatians 4:4
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Paul emphasizes the point. So if it isn’t in your Bible in Luke 1, you may still get to it. But it is a doctrinal reminder that is good to have.