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No Mass Shootings in Australia in 20 Years: How Did They Do It?

Internet Theologian

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So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually but drops to 5,100.
Still too many? Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?
• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington DC (a 54% increase over prior years)

Democratically controlled cities. Fact. :)
 

TCassidy

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So what they truly mean by "stricter gun laws" is "crime to be in possession of a gun."
And California just proved your point. Several hundred thousand Californians went to bed law abiding citizens and woke up felons. Why? Because the idiot legislature and brain dead governor passed and signed a law that made magazines which were legal to own yesterday, illegal today.

Are liberals really so stupid they think there are not enough criminals around already, they have to make new ones?

Liberal = mental illness.:Mad :(
 
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church mouse guy

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I, for one, would like to see CTB respond to Tom Cassidy's post.

You see, it's not "stricter gun laws" that these people are after; what they really think/believe is that no citizen of a developed nation needs a gun. Therefore, what they're after is the abolishment of guns. No guns, no gun deaths. So what they truly mean by "stricter gun laws" is "crime to be in possession of a gun."

Don't hold your breath for Crabtown to respond to an honest discussion and discuss the issues such as the murder epidemic in Democrat big cities or the fact that sharia law demands the death of s0d0mites. The Muslim shooter in Orlando under sharia law was not guilty of any crime but instead is a hero for adhering to the dictates of Mohammed.
 

church mouse guy

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A gunman opened fire in a nightclub in Orlando, killing 49.


A suicide attack on an army post in Jordan killed seven soldiers.


Suicide bombers killed dozens of civilians in Mukalla, Yemen, and in a Christian village in Lebanon, on the same day.


The next day, attackers struck Istanbul’s Ataturk airport, killing at least 41.


In the occupied West Bank, Palestinian assailants killed two Israeli civilians over two days: stabbing a 13-year-old girl while she was asleep in her home in a Jewish settlement and gunning down a man on the road.


On Friday, gunmen stormed a restaurant in Dhaka’s diplomatic quarter, letting some Muslims escape but killing at least 22, most of them foreigners.


And on Sunday, a bombing took more than 80 lives in Baghdad.


Guess what? The attackers were all Muslim!

It is widely believed that the rewards earned for noble acts are greater during Ramadan, which culminates in the Eid holiday this week.
 

Smyth

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The cruel facts are that with the massive influx of Islamists seeking to bring sharia law to the USA, places such as g@y bars are sitting ducks for jihadists who want sharia law. These bars probably will have to be shut down for the safety of their patrons, as jihadists believe that anyone who slanders the name of Allah should not prosper, or even live. The alliance between the left and Islam suffers at this point but it is the left that will have to make the adjustment as time goes by.

It's interesting to see how much concern Evangelicals shave for the sodomite community. But, there's no real evidence that gay bars are in danger from Muslims. If the gay-lover of the man who attacked the Pulse is to be believed, it was gay-on-gay revenge, not Muslim terrorism. If it was Muslim terrorism, the man just picked a soft target he was familiar with, a crowded bar he had been frequenting for years. If he and the bar were straight, a straight bar would have been his target.
 

Don

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I guess CTB is gonna run away from this discussion. Par for the course.

In the meantime, let's throw some more facts out for CTB to consider:
Illinois gun laws require a Firearms Owner ID (FOID) for purchasing long guns, hand guns, or ammunition. Found in possession of a firearm without a FOID is a fine and confiscation of the weapons and ammunition. An applicant is disqualified if he or she has been convicted of a felony or an act of domestic violence, is the subject of an order of protection, has been convicted of assault or battery or been a patient in a mental institution within the last five years, has been adjudicated as a mental defective, or is an illegal immigrant. There are additional requirements for applicants under the age of 21.
When a firearm is sold or transferred, the buyer is required to present their FOID card. This applies to private sales between individuals as well as to sales by Federal Firearms License (FFL) holders. For firearm sales by an FFL holder, or at a gun show, the seller must perform an automated dial-up check with the State Police, to verify that the FOID card is valid, and to redo the background check of the buyer. This additional checking is known as the Firearm Transfer Inquiry Program (FTIP). For private sales not at a gun show, the seller must also verify the buyer's FOID card with the state police, and receive a transfer approval number, either via a web site or with a phone call.
When purchasing a handgun in Illinois there is a 72-hour waiting period after the sale before the buyer can take possession. The waiting period for a rifle or shotgun is 24 hours.
The possession of automatic firearms (such as machine guns), short-barreled shotguns, and suppressors is prohibited.
Chicago has banned the possession of certain semi-automatic firearms that it defines as assault weapons.
Cook County...an individual may not purchase more than one firearm in a 30-day period.
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There are more. I just threw out highlights.

One may wonder, why is Don boring us to death with this?

Because in one weekend - ONE WEEKEND - 32-34 people were shot in Chicago (depends on which news report you look at). According to the article I'm linking, they averaged 15 shootings per day during the month of June.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/0...n-chicago-so-far-on-fourth-july-weakened.html

Look again at those gun laws. Then explain how we can compare ourselves to Australia, and say that stricter gun laws will prevent gun violence.

The obvious conclusion is that CTB is not advocating stricter gun laws. He's advocating the abolition of guns.
 

TCassidy

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The obvious conclusion is that CTB is not advocating stricter gun laws. He's advocating the abolition of guns.
I disagree. He is advocating the abolition of the Bill of Rights, the codified expression of our Liberty. :(
 

Deacon

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No Mass Shootings in Australia in 20 Years: How Did They Do It?

The Austrialian National Firearm Agreement included general confiscation of firearms, gun buybacks, bans on importation of weapons, and a standardized gun registration.
There’s no constitutional right to own firearms in Australia which allowed the government to force gun owners to surrender their personal firearms.

Could it be done here? Only if Americans would be willing to surrender the rights given to them in the constitution and submit themselves to tough federal government restrictions.

Rob
 

righteousdude2

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And California just proved your point. Several hundred thousand Californians went to bed law abiding citizens and woke up felons. Why? Because the idiot legislature and brain dead governor passed and signed a law that made magazines which were legal to own yesterday, illegal today.

Are liberals really so stupid they think there are not enough criminals around already, they have to make new ones?

Liberal = mental illness.:Mad :(

They're coming out of the ground, like wiggly, dirty, slimy worms. They don't refer to Cali as the "left coast" for fun. This state is a cesspool of sin. I think the dems use Cali as a testing pot for their views. If Cali goes for it, the country will be next. I wish I could afford to move, but I fear the left disease is spreading across the land faster then any of us conservatives would like to believe.
 

church mouse guy

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It's interesting to see how much concern Evangelicals shave for the sodomite community. But, there's no real evidence that gay bars are in danger from Muslims. If the gay-lover of the man who attacked the Pulse is to be believed, it was gay-on-gay revenge, not Muslim terrorism. If it was Muslim terrorism, the man just picked a soft target he was familiar with, a crowded bar he had been frequenting for years. If he and the bar were straight, a straight bar would have been his target.

Yes, well the FBI said that there was no information that the Muslim was a s0d0mite. During Ramadan, Muslims get extra points from Allah for carrying out shariah law, which, as you know, exacts the death penalty for s0d0my. This was a jihadist attack. The evidence that you are overlooking is the shariah law, but it is difficult for the alliance between leftists and Islam to acknowledge that the omelet requires the breaking of some eggs. So the interest in the concern is with the left, huh?
 

church mouse guy

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I guess CTB is gonna run away from this discussion. Par for the course....

Crabtown is trying to say that because Australia did not suffer from the jihadist Ramadan attack that the USA had in Orlando that the USA should disarm. I am guessing that a lot of countries avoided jihadist Ramadan attacks. We could avoid them also if we were serious about security but we have the Muslim Brotherhood advising us on security--we must act the way the Muslim Brotherhood tells us to act. Don't look for any improvement from Hillary and Huma Abedin. And Trump seems clueless, also.
 

Don

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Crabtown is trying to say that because Australia did not suffer from the jihadist Ramadan attack that the USA had in Orlando that the USA should disarm. I am guessing that a lot of countries avoided jihadist Ramadan attacks. We could avoid them also if we were serious about security but we have the Muslim Brotherhood advising us on security--we must act the way the Muslim Brotherhood tells us to act. Don't look for any improvement from Hillary and Huma Abedin. And Trump seems clueless, also.
I wonder if CTB saw the news article today that France wants to copy our anti-terrorism agencies?

I wonder why they're not trying to copy Australia's?
 

Smyth

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Yes, well the FBI said that there was no information that the Muslim was a s0d0mite.

The FBI said they said they hadn't [yet] found "CONCRETE" evidence of specific homosexual partners or that Omar Mateen used homosexual dating apps. They didn't deny, nor cast doubt, that he was a long-time regular of the gay bar. And, I wouldn't expect modern the FBI to make much effort to follow this line of evidence. There is a cloud of witnesses that show that beyond a reasonable doubt that Mateen was a homosexual.

It was either gay-on-gay revenge (as explained by a man claiming to have been one of Mateen's homosexual partners, or maybe just because one rejection too many) or it was terrorism but with Mateen choosing his target not out of homophobia, but out of familiarity with the soft target. Evangelicals are supporting an unlikely narrative of homophobia and they are throwing moral values under the bus, to score anti-Islam points.
 
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