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Nobel Peace Prize?!?!

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NaasPreacher (C4K)

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I very rarely post here now, but this stunned me!!

What has President Obama done to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize?????

To use a common phrase here I am gobsmacked!! Unbelievable.

I mean, no matter what you think about it, what has he DONE to be honoured in such a way? The last US president to win it was Woodrow Wilson for his 14 Points that ended World War I.
 
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rbell

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I very rarely post here now, but this stunned me!!

What has President Obama done to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize?????

To use a common phrase here I am gobsmacked!! Unbelievable.

Well, let's see....he um...er...well...

Didn't he hope to change something?

Oh...I know: He is ruining the greatest experiment in freedom ever conceived. Is that "peaceful" enough?
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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Well, let's see....he um...er...well...

Didn't he hope to change something?

Oh...I know: He is ruining the greatest experiment in freedom ever conceived. Is that "peaceful" enough?

I would really like this to stay on topic and not wander off into still more bashing but to stick with the issue.

Can there be any rationale? I am already hearing comments being sent into the Irish radio station asking the same question and the Irish people LOVE him. Still they are saying, 'What has he done?'

I read THIS and still don't know what he did.
 
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rbell

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I would really like this to stay on topic and not wander off into still more bashing but to stick with the issue.

Can there be any rationale? I am already hearing comments being sent into the Irish radio station asking the same question and the Irish people LOVE him. Still they are saying, 'What has he done?'

I read THIS and still don't know what he did.


Well, he's apologized to the world for the last nine months...

Maybe that endeared him to the committee.
 

Crabtownboy

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C4K wrote, I would really like this to stay on topic and not wander off into still more bashing but to stick with the issue.

I agree, I hope this will be a rational discussion and not sink into a thread of one line irrational comments.


Your post was the first I had heard of the Nobel Peace Price being awarded to Obama. I find it surprising, especially since he has only been in office since last January.

Here is what I found after doing a bit of research. I will bold some of their reasons...........

The US president, Barack Obama, was today awarded the 2009 Nobel peace prize "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples".

The Nobel committee said "only rarely has a person such as Obama captured the world's attention and given his people hope for a better future".
"His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population," the citation said.

The committee said Obama, who only took up the presidency in January, had been acknowledged for his calls to reduce the world's stockpile of nuclear weapons and working for world peace.

"Obama has as president created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play."

The first African American to hold the country's highest office, Obama has called for disarmament and attempted – so far without success – to restart the stalled Middle East peace process. He is currently considering whether to increase troop numbers in Afghanistan where the US is mired in an eight-year-old conflict.

The choice of Obama for the prize from a field of more than 200 candidates astounded international commentators, in part because he took office less than two weeks before the February nomination deadline

As I said above, I am surprised he was given this award this year. Perhaps I am wrong, obviously the committee would think so, but it seems to me that it would have been more prudent to wait several years and see what the results of his efforts. Perhaps results do not figure into their giving awards. For instance in 1994 three people were given the award:

YASSER ARAFAT , Chairman of the Executive Committee of the PLO, President of the Palestinian National Authority.

SHIMON PERES , Foreign Minister of Israel.

YITZHAK RABIN , Prime Minister of Israel.

and little long lasting peace came from their efforts.

and in 1991 AUNG SAN SUU KYI, Burma. Oppositional leader, human rights advocate, was given the award and as far as I can see Burma is still as oppressive, if not more so, than it was then.

 
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Spinach

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I don't understand, either. He has been President for less than a year and, as far as I know, has not accomplished world peace. Or at least peace in the middle east.

Is it that he is opening doors to the Muslims and Russians? Is it because he seems more open to discussion with volatile world leaders?

Or is it because he is just plain popular in the world's eyes?
 

Spinach

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My previous post was cross-posted with Crabtown Boy's.

So according to that info, it is because he WANTS peace and he has captured the world's eye with his WANT.

If that's all it takes, any Miss America could win that award.
 

rbell

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For instance in 1994 three people were given the award:

YASSER ARAFAT , Chairman of the Executive Committee of the PLO, President of the Palestinian National Authority.

SHIMON PERES , Foreign Minister of Israel.

YITZHAK RABIN , Prime Minister of Israel.

and little long lasting peace came from their efforts.

and in 1991 AUNG SAN SUU KYI, Burma. Oppositional leader, human rights advocate, was given the award and as far as I can see Burma is still as oppressive, if not more so, than it was then.

Yet another reason this "peace prize" has fallen into complete and total irrelevance, if not laughability.
 

JohnDeereFan

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I very rarely post here now, but this stunned me!!

What has President Obama done to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize?????

To use a common phrase here I am gobsmacked!! Unbelievable.

I mean, no matter what you think about it, what has he DONE to be honoured in such a way? The last US president to win it was Woodrow Wilson for his 14 Points that ended World War I.

It's official: the Nobel Peace Prize is now officially meaningless.

Reminds me of those dopey youth soccer banquets where every kid gets a trophy just for showing up.

On the other hand, the good news is that it ought to make for an entertaining Glenn Beck show this morning.
 

Matt Black

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Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

Nope, not a joke. Not quite sure why since, as far as I can tell, he hasn't actually done anything yet. It seems to be on the basis that he might vaguely want to do something but, on those grounds, surely most of us qualify?
 

Revmitchell

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OSLO -- President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples," the Norwegian Nobel Committee said, citing his outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation.

The stunning choice made Obama the third sitting U.S. president to win the Nobel Peace Prize and shocked Nobel observers because Obama took office less than two weeks before the Feb. 1 nomination deadline. Obama's name had been mentioned in speculation before the award but many Nobel watchers believed it was too early to award the president.

More here

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Apparently the whole thing was fixed in advance
 

Tom Bryant

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I was hoping that Zimbabwean Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai would have won the prize. He has actually done something to work towards peace in a country being destroyed by the dictator, Robert Mugabe.
 

rbell

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That's what makes this an even more ridiculous award...Obama was nominated nine days after he took office!

This is a completely bogus, undeserved "honor." Whether you like Obama or not, he did nothing to earn this "award."
 

Spinach

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So the world breathed a collective sigh of relief at the HOPE that is Barack Obama? So that means he is instantly worthy of a peace prize?

It also seems that the prize is intended to help further his international initiatives----not because of what he has actually done.

Or am I misunderstanding the whole thing?
 

Crabtownboy

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I found the following comments in the Washington Post intereseting. I am not sure if I agree with the writers or not. I have to think on this more. Often through the years I have not understood why this award went to the person selected.

The Nobel prize for peace has always been a political award. That's exactly the point of the prize. It's to raise the awareness of a cause and to raise the profile of a crusader. President Barack H. Obama has made a sea-change in the approach of the most powerful country on earth towards diplomacy on all fronts and towards nuclear disarmament. He is more than deserving of this recognition.

Posted by: genefoxjr | October 9, 2009 7:17 AM

This price will help the US overseas. Under Bush we were hated and now already other countries are showing us more respect when we say ''I'm an American.'' Job well done.

Posted by: ridagana | October 9, 2009 7:25 AM

That's the power of George Bush, now two people ower him the Nobel Prize, Carter and Obama.

Posted by: Gregory1 | October 9, 2009 7:28 AM


I can't help but think of the impotent rage of the right wing... and smile.

Posted by: hellslittlestangel1 | October 9, 2009 7:56 AM



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2009/10/obama_strikes_gold_in_scandana.html

From what I have read so far it caught the White House totally by surprise. Remember this is a selection by Norwegians. It is their award and they can give it to anyone they want for any reason they want.

 
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Revmitchell

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So the world breathed a collective sigh of relief at the HOPE that is Barack Obama? So that means he is instantly worthy of a peace prize?

It also seems that the prize is intended to help further his international initiatives----not because of what he has actually done.

Or am I misunderstanding the whole thing?

Nope......nail hit on head...bingo...got it.....couldn't be a more direct hit.
 

rbell

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NBC postulated that this award was more of a slap in GWB's face than anything for Obama.

That could very well be true.


Rbell states, "I plan to build a society where war will not exist. We will all hold hands, be happy, and sing together, with Tiny Tim playing his ukelele..."tiptoe, through the tulips..."

Now: Since we give awards based on what a person intends to do...where's MY Nobel Prize? Actually, keep the trophy...where's my money?!?!

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What makes it more sickening is the fawning that the news folks are going ga-ga over Obama's "accomplishment." Even though they themselves admit he's done nothing yet to deserve it.
 

Spinach

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Nope......nail hit on head...bingo...got it.....couldn't be a more direct hit.

I feel like I've won an award.

I'd like to thank my Mom and Dad for raising me with such strong beliefs.

I'd also like to thank my husband and kids for putting up with me and loving me anyway.

And I'd like to thank Revmitchell who nominated me in the first place.

And to all the fans...
 

billreber

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This article http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_nobel_peace says

Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which are awarded by Swedish institutions, the peace prize is given out by a five-member committee elected by the Norwegian Parliament. Like the Parliament, the committee has a leftist slant, with three members elected by left-of-center parties. Jagland said the decision to honor Obama was unanimous

What else can you expect?

Bill :godisgood:
 
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