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Non-KJBO lies

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by Orvie:
Over 98% of N.T. MSS are in agreement, no matter which Family of MSS are used. (the other 2% are non essentials, i.e. not vital doctrines
98%? Mis-Information! It is false. It is 93%.
 

Trotter

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Askjo wrote:
quote:Originally posted by Trotter:
"King James Verion Only", the cancer of Christianity.

Who???
Not, "Who???" But, "What???"

Answer: The man-made lie that is known as "King James Version Onlyism"

And, yes, " King James Verion Only "is the cancer of Christianity.

I mean, hey, you all are the ones causing all the division around here. Do we who hold to the notion that God has given us many valid translations condemn those of you who hold to the King James alone? NO! But you and your like routinely condemn us who do not bow to the KJV.

In Christ,
Trotter
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by natters:
30,000 chariots or 3,000 chariots does not affect my faith.
When you read the Bible if you do not understand some verses contradicting each other, how would you understand what the Bible said between these verses?
The NIV missing 1 John 5:7 or the KJV missing half of Jude 1:25 does not make me question my relationship with Christ.
The NIV omitted 1 John 5:7 because its Greek text following the W/H text where an unitarian rejected this verse. The KJV did not add a part of Jude 1:25. These MVS added it because the NU text added it and omitted "wise."
 

Dr. Bob

Administrator
Administrator
Originally posted by michelle:
John 16, and 17 - I recommend that you study, pray and meditate upon these verses in the KJB. The Holy Spirit leads us to all truth. He does not lead us to error and then have a compromise error. He will prompt us to separate from and reject the error.
As He has. Your pious phrases notwithstanding, the Spirit of God has led me to reject you as being a proclaimer of a false teaching, error, schism and doctrinal perversion.

You have been shown time and again the error of your way and have not repented. If you were a member of my church, you would be called for discipline and turned over to Satan if you failed to heed the Word.

But you will continue to post (I'm sure) and try to subvert the truth, all the while quoting verses and proclaiming that the KJV (whichever revision YOU accept as "perfect") is the only way of salvation.

Get thee behind me.

[Note: there is NO smiley face in this post. I am sick every day at the perversion of truth and find it not anything but sad.]
 

Ed Edwards

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Originally posted by Askjo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by natters:
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The NIV missing 1 John 5:7 or the KJV missing half of Jude 1:25 does not make me question my relationship with Christ.
The NIV omitted 1 John 5:7 because its Greek text following the W/H text where an unitarian rejected this verse.
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Sorry, Askjo, your statement is incorrect.

There is a surce text variation in 1 John 5:7.
It is the Latin Vulgate that contains the extra
phrases NOT THE GREEK SOURCE.
The translators of the KJV decided that
the Latin Vulgate was more correct.
The translators of the KJV used higher
criticism to determine what was right.
Do we trust these Baptist bahishing,
baby baptizers (BBBBpt) to do this kind of work?

There is no way for your know that the
translator of the Latin Vulgate was a
unitarian???

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Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by natters:
michelle said "My Final Authority does not attack the doctrines of the deity of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The modern versions do."

No they don't.
I agree with Michelle because I found many doctrines were affected by most MVs. These MVs twisted Jesus' name in the NT 200 times!
 

Dr. Bob

Administrator
Administrator
And how many times do the Eastern Orthodox Greek texts (Byzantine family) add "Lord" or "Jesus" or "Christ" to these phrases.

Additions to the Word are just as wrong as supposed deletions.
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by michelle:
Based upon the history of it's use and acceptance and belief within the churches, and the EVIDENCE of it still today. Are you saved as the KJB informs you? Or are you "being" saved as the NIV informs you? Is Jesus Christ THE morning star as the KJB informs you? Or is Jesus Christ who is THE morning star falling from Heaven as the NIV informs you? Do you know that to be baptized in water, you must first believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God as the KJB informs you? Or are you left wondering. Are your sins forgiven you through the blood of Jesus Christ? Or are your sins just forgiven? Are there three that bear witness in Heaven: The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost? Was Jesus Christ equal with God as a man? Or was Jesus not grasping to be God as a man?
Interesting!
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by michelle:
Jesus Christ is THE MORNING STAR in both the KJB and the NIV. However, the NIV shows you that THE MORNING STAR falls from heaven. Sorry, that is blasphemy.
If the NIV contradicts with 2 verses reflecting the morning star, God contradicts Himself.
You show your confusion. How are you forgiven? Is it through the shed blood of Jesus Christ, or not? If it is, then how can you accept this version as your final authority, when it has deleted this important truth? There is NO EXCUSE for this. You are justifying, and compromising with error, to which we are commanded not to do.
MVs omitted the important part of Col 1:14 concerning the blood of Jesus Christ.
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by LarryN:
For approximately the 573rd time- would you provide even one example of how any MV attacks the Deity of Jesus. If you won't, then why not cease making this spurious accusation once and for all.
356 false doctrinal passages and errors in WH text, UBS and NA text are affected in MVs.
 

robycop3

Well-Known Member
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Originally posted by LarryN:
For approximately the 573rd time- would you provide even one example of how any MV attacks the Deity of Jesus. If you won't, then why not cease making this spurious accusation once and for all.


ASKJO:356 false doctrinal passages and errors in WH text, UBS and NA text are affected in MVs.

Can you prove these aren't corrections of errors in other mss? after all, the "Alex" mss are generally older than the "Byz" mss, so if the Byz mss have more material, there's a strong possibility it coulda been ADDED.
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by natters:
We are forgiven throught the shed blood of Jesus. No version deletes this important truth. Has Eph 4:32 in the KJV deleted this important truth? It does not mention the blood.
No version deletes this important truth. Distortion! Michelle refers to Col. 1:14.

KJV
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

NIV
in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

NASB
in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

ESV
in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Where is Jesus' Blood on Col. 1:14 in MVs? Show Michelle, please!

Has Eph 4:32 in the KJV deleted this important truth?
Distortion again! I checked MVs on Eph. 4:32. They did not say anything about the blood.
 

Ransom

Active Member
&gt; Where is Jesus' Blood on Col. 1:14 in MVs?

Keep reading to verse 20, and stop bearing false witness against the word of Almighty God. Shame on you!
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by natters:
Michelle said "HERETICAL AND APOSTATE MEN who were RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UNDERLYING TEXTS AND METHODS used for TRANSLATION of the modern versions, to which evidences their APOSTATE VIEWS concerning our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and their hatred toward his preserved words"

This is completely untrue.
Natters, Michelle is right. W/H were heretics and apostates in old time. Also Dr. Metzger and others today.
 

Ed Edwards

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Originally posted by Askjo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by natters:
Michelle said "HERETICAL AND APOSTATE MEN who were RESPONSIBLE FOR THE UNDERLYING TEXTS AND METHODS used for TRANSLATION of the modern versions, to which evidences their APOSTATE VIEWS concerning our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and their hatred toward his preserved words"

This is completely untrue.
Natters, Michelle is right. W/H were heretics and apostates in old time. Also Dr. Metzger and others today. </font>[/QUOTE]Amen, Brother Natters -- Preach it!

These charges against W/H
are not viable. It is unkind to bring
such baseless charges against our Brothers
in Christ.

Interesting enough, one of the false
charges against Westot and Hort is that
they are devil worshiping Pagans.
The "devil worshiper" and "Pagan"
definitions preclude that one can be both.
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by Orvie:
2 Cor 2:17 ESV Yeah, go to those KJVO sites, and see for yourself the peddling! i.e. "Don't trust those MV's...only buy the KJV, from us" :rolleyes:
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"Corrupt the word of God" is as NOT SAME as "peddling the word of God." I researched and still write 11 pages concerning 2 Cor. 2:17. I found massive information favoring "corrupt" than "peddle." You need to look at Will Kinney's answer on 2 Cor. 2:17 in his website and find "Many which Corrupt the word of God." Will wrote 4 pages on 2 Cor. 2:17. His essay on this subject is very excellent.
 

Askjo

New Member
Originally posted by Orvie:
...and so do we....KJV, NKJV, ESV....I thank God that He is able and willing to speak to me in today's English.
You pointed off what I talked about foreign Bible translations. I did not talk about MVs.
 

Orvie

New Member
Originally posted by Askjo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Orvie:
Over 98% of N.T. MSS are in agreement, no matter which Family of MSS are used. (the other 2% are non essentials, i.e. not vital doctrines
98%? Mis-Information! It is false. It is 93%. </font>[/QUOTE]93%? Mis-Information! It is false. It is 98% :D
 

Ed Edwards

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Originally posted by Askjo:
"Corrupt the word of God" is as NOT SAME as "peddling the word of God." I researched and still write 11 pages concerning 2 Cor. 2:17. I found massive information favoring "corrupt" than "peddle." You need to look at Will Kinney's answer on 2 Cor. 2:17 in his website and find "Many which Corrupt the word of God." Will wrote 4 pages on 2 Cor. 2:17. His essay on this subject is very excellent.
You believe Will Kinney over the
King James Bible, the King James Version 1611 Edition?

If call you out publicly I.A.W. (in accordance
with) 2 Thess 3:14-16.
The KJB clearly says (yet you deny the
written word of God in your own Bible):

II.Corinthians II.17 (IJV1611):
For wee are not as many which
||corrupt the word of God: but as of
sinceritie, but as of God, in the sight of
God speake we in Christ.

sidenote: || Or, deale deceitfully with.

II.Corinthians II.17 (IJV1611alt):
For wee are not as many which
deale deceitfully with the word of God: but as of
sinceritie, but as of God, in the sight of
God speake we in Christ.

quote:
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Originally posted by Askjo:
"Corrupt the word of God" is as NOT SAME as "peddling the word of God." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now they are not the same.
In 1611 they mean the same.
The most most similiar in 1611 and 2004
is "peddling the word of God."
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