Featured Non-physical Humanity (was Millennium Thread)

I just took a quick look at "spiritual" in the NT. It occurs in 23 verses in the KJV. It never, ever refers to a disembodied spirit of some kind. In fact, it occurs quite often in connection with living human beings who have physical bodies. Here are some examples. (I give these fully realizing that asterisktom, after taking me to task after I referred to theologians, then deciding not to play the copy and paste game with me, may ignore this. )

Ro 1:11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, [even] as unto babes in Christ.
1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Ga 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

So, "spiritual" (an adjective) in the NT never means the same as the nouns "spirit" or "ghost." (Note: "Spirit" in Matt. 14:26 is not the normal word for "spirit" as in "Holy Spirit" or the human spirit, but phanstasma. If Jesus no longer has a physical body, is He now a phantasma, a ghost?)

 

I know, no Greek. Why is it there?

 

verse 7 reads in the Greek, "καὶ ἔπλασεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν ἄνθρωπον χοῦν ἀπὸ τῆς γῆς καὶ ἐνεφύσησεν εἰς τὸ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ πνοὴν ζωῆς, καὶ ἐγένετο ὁ ἄνθρωπος εἰς ψυχὴν ζῶσαν", translated, "and God shaped man taking dust from the earth, and breathed into his face, breath of life, and man became a living soul".

It can read literally, "the God...the man...the man". But it is not always necessary to do this. However, in this case, the article used with the second "man" (ὁ ἄνθρωπος), is there for renewed mention, as we have "τὸν ἄνθρωπον", where the article is used because a particular "man" is in mind, Adam. We could translate the article "the God", as in The One True God, Who Created all things. But either way makes no difference to the sense in English.

 

You can't ask "why"; it was predestinated

 

I grew up non-dispensationalist and became one later. And I feel the same way. So yeah.

 

I'm sorry you think this. I know of no one who has been banned from the BB for challenging me. I know of hundreds of times people have challenged me and not been banned. I do know of situations where someone has been banned for outright heresy or for disobeying the rules on civil discourse.

As for me being a "favorite" here, I myself have been rebuked/warned more than once for my conduct. I have apologized many times for my attitude or for words I have used. Here on this thread I have challenged you several times and you do not answer, though I believe I have disproved your position that Christ no longer has a physical body. You have every right to refuse to interact with me. But I still take my stand for the Incarnation of Christ.

 

To deny that we will have a physical resurrection, and to state that the second coming has already happened is heresy!

 

OT hope was the physical resurrection of the Body under messiah, and now we have that promised messiah , so why would we not expect a physically resurrection?

 

Did not know Covenant premil like me and Spurgeon were 'darbyists"

 

Spiritual refers to it being the glorified physical body, not being a ghost!

 

see #45

 

Its the same body that we died with, now raised up and made imperishable!

 

To deny the physical resurrection, and to hold to second coming already happen, is outside Orthodoxy!

 

Yuu mean like Spurgeon, Boice, Ladd, and myself?

 

Explain "glorified." Use more than 25 words. Try some real exposition. Not drive-bys.

 

To the moderators: Please forgo your antiquated page count when @Yeshua1 gets involved in a thread. His drive-by potshots contain no substance and artificially raise the post count.

 

You need to do more study and abandon the impressions you've gotten by the artistry in the SDA Bible Story Books and Jehovah's Witnesses pamphlets.