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North Korea Agrees To Open Its Doors To Christianity

Wingman68

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Their statement is "How could America have fallen so far in such little time?'
Leftist talking points. A letter to the editor from a so called immigrant to this country spewed those exact words. They are so lame. How can anyone with functioning brain cells take them seriously. They don’t. Don’t be a joke.
 

Yeshua1

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I agree it's much better to talk than fight. That's what the UN was set up to provide and that's what U.S. diplomats try to effect. But Trump has virtually dismantled our experienced foreign service cadre (60% of experienced diplomats fired) and has never even appointed an ambassador to S. Korea. Isn't that an important part of the world to have diplomats in place? In fact he hasn't supported the president of S. Korea's historic effort to bring peace to the Korean Peninsula. Kim set foot on S. Korean soil for the first time ever! It only counts if he can take credit for it. .
Doesn't your suggested approach include president Obama's peace agreement with with Iran which Trump just walked away from? What about Jimmy Carter's negotiated peace between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland? What about the Paris Peace Talks which Nixon undermined to continue the war in Vietnam? Why were the Iran hostages released on the day Reagan was inaugurated. That wasn't because Iran was afraid of Reagan. Something else was going on which we found a little bit about when he confessed to the Iran Contra affair.
The US state department has become pretty much the tool of the liberal Globalist agenda, as they would rather see America go down the tubes that dare to confront regimes such as ran by Dough Boy. They LOVED president obama, as he out the needs of the world before our own needs, as seen by signing us to Global emissions treaty, greening energy, not supporting Israel etc!
Trump dares to actually want the needs of America come before needs of the world, and that policy galls the state Department.
And we saw how peace in our time, by not using military threat, worked with Hitler!
 

FollowTheWay

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The US state department has become pretty much the tool of the liberal Globalist agenda, as they would rather see America go down the tubes that dare to confront regimes such as ran by Dough Boy. They LOVED president obama, as he out the needs of the world before our own needs, as seen by signing us to Global emissions treaty, greening energy, not supporting Israel etc!
Trump dares to actually want the needs of America come before needs of the world, and that policy galls the state Department.
And we saw how peace in our time, by not using military threat, worked with Hitler!
International diplomacy kept us from having an apocalyptic nuclear war with the former Soviet Union. If Trump had dealt with the Cuban Missile Crisis none of us would be alive right now. But we would have died thinking America was first!
 

InTheLight

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International diplomacy kept us from having an apocalyptic nuclear war with the former Soviet Union.

What? Looks like I'll have to correct your faulty history--again.

President Kennedy imposed a naval blockade on Cuba. This is not diplomacy. This is a military option.

Yes, there was negotiating between the US and the USSR after the blockade was imposed, but not anything "international" unless you count Turkey and Cuba as having a say in anything. Otherwise it was basically between two countries.

If Trump had dealt with the Cuban Missile Crisis none of us would be alive right now. But we would have died thinking America was first!

You can't know this unless you've got a functioning time travel machine, went back in time to an alternate universe, and saw this happen.



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FollowTheWay

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What? Looks like I'll have to correct your faulty history--again.

President Kennedy imposed a naval blockade on Cuba. This is not diplomacy. This is a military option.

Yes, there was negotiating between the US and the USSR after the blockade was imposed, but not anything "international" unless you count Turkey and Cuba as having a say in anything. Otherwise it was basically between two countries.



You can't know this unless you've got a functioning time travel machine, went back in time to an alternate universe, and saw this happen.



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The blockade was a response to the USSR sending nuclear missiles to Cuba. That's correct. But it was the diplomacy afterward that saved the world. Trump has shown me zero negotiation skills. He can only tweet out treats. I don't want to see that approach used in a crisis. if you think he would be great in a crisis you're welcome to that conclusion.
 

Yeshua1

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International diplomacy kept us from having an apocalyptic nuclear war with the former Soviet Union. If Trump had dealt with the Cuban Missile Crisis none of us would be alive right now. But we would have died thinking America was first!
Actually, Russia would never even placed an nukes there to start with!
How did that diplomacy with Hitler do?
 

FollowTheWay

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Actually, Russia would never even placed an nukes there to start with!
How did that diplomacy with Hitler do?
In response to the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961 and the presence of American Jupiter ballistic missiles in Italy and Turkey, Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev agreed to Cuba's request to place nuclear missiles on the island to deter a future invasion. An agreement was reached during a secret meeting between Khrushchev and Fidel Castro in July 1962 and construction of a number of missile launch facilities started later that summer.

The 1962 United States elections were under way, and the White House had for months denied charges that it was ignoring dangerous Soviet missiles 90 miles (140 km) from Florida. The missile preparations were confirmed when an Air Force U-2 spy plane produced clear photographic evidence of medium-range (SS-4) and intermediate-range (R-14) ballistic missile facilities. The U.S. established a naval blockade on October 22 to prevent further missiles from reaching Cuba; Oval Office tapes during the crisis revealed that Kennedy had also put the blockade in place as an attempt to provoke Soviet-backed forces in Berlin as well.[3][4][5] It announced that they would not permit offensive weapons to be delivered to Cuba and demanded that the weapons already in Cuba be dismantled and returned to the Soviet Union.

After a long period of tense negotiations, an agreement was reached between U.S. President John F. Kennedy and Khrushchev[when?]. Publicly, the Soviets would dismantle their offensive weapons in Cuba and return them to the Soviet Union, subject to United Nations verification, in exchange for a U.S. public declaration and agreement to avoid invading Cuba again. Secretly, the United States also agreed that it would dismantle all U.S.-built Jupiter MRBMs, which had been deployed in Turkey against the Soviet Union; there has been debate on whether or not Italy was included in the agreement as well.

When all offensive missiles and Ilyushin Il-28 light bombers had been withdrawn from Cuba, the blockade was formally ended on November 21, 1962. The negotiations between the United States and the Soviet Union pointed out the necessity of a quick, clear, and direct communication line between Washington and Moscow. As a result, the Moscow–Washington hotline was established. A series of agreements reduced U.S.–Soviet tensions for several years until the United States and Russia began to build their nuclear arsenal even further.
 

Yeshua1

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In response to the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961 and the presence of American Jupiter ballistic missiles in Italy and Turkey, Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev agreed to Cuba's request to place nuclear missiles on the island to deter a future invasion. An agreement was reached during a secret meeting between Khrushchev and Fidel Castro in July 1962 and construction of a number of missile launch facilities started later that summer.

The 1962 United States elections were under way, and the White House had for months denied charges that it was ignoring dangerous Soviet missiles 90 miles (140 km) from Florida. The missile preparations were confirmed when an Air Force U-2 spy plane produced clear photographic evidence of medium-range (SS-4) and intermediate-range (R-14) ballistic missile facilities. The U.S. established a naval blockade on October 22 to prevent further missiles from reaching Cuba; Oval Office tapes during the crisis revealed that Kennedy had also put the blockade in place as an attempt to provoke Soviet-backed forces in Berlin as well.[3][4][5] It announced that they would not permit offensive weapons to be delivered to Cuba and demanded that the weapons already in Cuba be dismantled and returned to the Soviet Union.

After a long period of tense negotiations, an agreement was reached between U.S. President John F. Kennedy and Khrushchev[when?]. Publicly, the Soviets would dismantle their offensive weapons in Cuba and return them to the Soviet Union, subject to United Nations verification, in exchange for a U.S. public declaration and agreement to avoid invading Cuba again. Secretly, the United States also agreed that it would dismantle all U.S.-built Jupiter MRBMs, which had been deployed in Turkey against the Soviet Union; there has been debate on whether or not Italy was included in the agreement as well.

When all offensive missiles and Ilyushin Il-28 light bombers had been withdrawn from Cuba, the blockade was formally ended on November 21, 1962. The negotiations between the United States and the Soviet Union pointed out the necessity of a quick, clear, and direct communication line between Washington and Moscow. As a result, the Moscow–Washington hotline was established. A series of agreements reduced U.S.–Soviet tensions for several years until the United States and Russia began to build their nuclear arsenal even further.
The point is that Russia , knowing that Trump would draw the Red line in the Oceam and really mean it, would not have even brought nukes to Cuba!
 

InTheLight

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Well, doubt they'll be a complete turnaround anytime soon but Trump supposedly did bring this issue up to Kim Jong Un:

'Things will be happening', Trump offers hope for North Korean Christians - Premier

"things will be happening", vague as usual but really, things can't get much worse in NK than they are right now.

From the article:
Mr Trump assured said Christians were brought up in the discussion and "things will be happening".
He replied to the reporter: "It will be worked on. Christians, yes. We brought it up. Franklin Graham spent and spends a tremendous amount of time in North Korea. He has it close to his heart. It did come up and things will be happening. Great question."


That is awesome. That's an answer to prayer for me. Yes!
 
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