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Notre Dame Cathedral ON FIRE!
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How about Michaelangelo's idolatrous graven image of the Father and Adam. Was it saved? Or any of their wooden "Jesus's"? I must admit I know nothing about other aspects of the cathedral or its history and really don't care. I wonder how many of our brethren they killed during the time it took to build it?
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Kinda like their so called Jesus painted on the end of their football stadium.
That is the way I am looking at it.
Hasn't that building survived quite a bit in its time?
There is no way that my house compares in any way to Notre Dame, even to me.
I'm still miffed by the sack of Constantinople and conversion of Hagia Sophia to a mosque. And I see that Erdogan wants to convert it from a museum to a mosque again.
Great architecture embodies the hopes and dreams of those who make it, which can span generations and centuries. As a Christian humanist, I do not despise what man has built through his God-given ingenuity and idealism.
I'm still miffed by the sack of Constantinople and conversion of Hagia Sophia to a mosque. And I see that Erdogan wants to convert it from a museum to a mosque again.
Great architecture embodies the hopes and dreams of those who make it, which can span generations and centuries. As a Christian humanist, I do not despise what man has built through his God-given ingenuity and idealism.
Of course, right you are Jon.My house is far more important to me than was Notre Dame.
But I was thinking of Ozymandias.
It was only a building...a man made structure. I wonder how many would have seen it less a tragedy had men died yet the cathedral been spared. We live in a world of skewed priority.
While its burning is sad, ultimately it was only a building..a temporary structure.
As a matter of fact now that you mention it, I can't help thinking of 2 passages in scripture.
2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Revelation 18
16 ... Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
True, very true.
look up the St. Bartholomew Day slaughter - never mind, Ill do it.
Massacre of Saint Bartholomew’s Day | Definition, Background, & Facts
"An estimated 3,000 French Protestants were killed in Paris, and as many as 70,000 in all of France. The massacre of Saint Bartholomew’s Day marked the resumption of religious civil war in France."
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/saint-bartholomews-day-massacre
I hate to see such things ( art, architecture, literature, poetry, etc) be destroyed. Some things, like literature, music and art are destroyed through neglect and illiteracy as they become obsolete to the point they are no longer valued. We tend to see a bit more permanence in architecture (I suppose because they are more material). The impact is stark and lasting.
Just think about how we view the change in the New York City skyline after the towers fell. People in their twenties, unless directly affected, do not sense that loss. The same is true of Paris, if I were ever to visit the city again....which I won't (I never liked Paris). It had wonderful history and a big part of that history is gone. It can be rebuilt but never replaced.
For me, Notre Dame does not compare to my home. I guess it is because of the purpose of each. One is a shelter for those I love. The other is a monument to the past. In this sense I find my home more appealing with a different kind of beauty.
If you start counting the years from the beginning year of the construction - AD1163 - then it has been there in Paris 856 years. Most notably, it survived WWII and the Nazi invasion.
And now it has been destroyed by a renovation crew.
It suffered more at the hands of the Revolutionaries (before they lost their heads, so to speak), who looted the building and converted it into a Temple of Reason.
unprofitable
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Thanks for the history info HankD
Ya, ironic.
So, no matter what is found out, how long before our tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists claim - Conspiracy!!
With elaborate schematics and a multitude of scientific facts and super reliable sources.
You know like the conspiracy theories of the JFK Assassination, Moon Landing, MK-Ultra, 911, blah, blah, blah.
And now - The Notre Dame Conflagration Conspiracy.
In fact a "Notre Dame conspiracy theorists" Google came up with 1,780,000 hits!
YouTube is loaded - unbelievable!
Just a few minutes ago.
With elaborate schematics and a multitude of scientific facts and super reliable sources.
You know like the conspiracy theories of the JFK Assassination, Moon Landing, MK-Ultra, 911, blah, blah, blah.
And now - The Notre Dame Conflagration Conspiracy.
In fact a "Notre Dame conspiracy theorists" Google came up with 1,780,000 hits!
YouTube is loaded - unbelievable!
Just a few minutes ago.
A workplace accident. What a pity. I wish the Muslims would all go back to their countries and let Europe be Europe again.
The Roman Catholic world maybe. For many of us, it is just a building rich in history.
And how about:
The Protestant Inquisition
Be sure to read take the time to read it since I am know you want to be fair.
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The curiosity is that we came here to escape Catholicism and European royalty but now we have tens of millions of Catholics so that there is hardly a Protestant country in the world and the Catholic countries all want foreign aid from us.