Just don’t live in a condo when he is running things.
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Now I’m really ticked, they want to vax the little ones!
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Jon, you do know that there are some less invasive, quicker, less expensive, and proven ways to treat COVID correct? It’s not a one method means of combating these viruses. And that’s what’s so infuriating... people think these shots are the only way, the cure all.
One of my two primary care physician is pro vax. We just had to agree to disagree when he was pushing me to take Vax. I asked him how many patients he had die of Covid. He said 1. She was over 80. My other PCP is 100% antivax. Yeah, I have 2.
This happened a few days ago in Texas. It is, of course, already banned on youtube. This man knows, but they don’t want you to know. Please listen to this school board meeting:
A Message to the Edinburg CISD School Board
A Message to the Edinburg CISD School Board
I know that there are treatments for after one gets covid, but also that they are not proven to be effective (they may help symptoms, but we do not know if they prevent death as those who took "voodoo treatments" may have recovered without the treatments. But there is no indication that an alternate treatment actually saves lives on a consistent basis.
She is lucky. I personally know of over 12 who have died of covid....most were in their 60's but four were under 30. I know one who killed himself because he could not deal with the lasting damage covid did to his body. And I know of one who is 20 years old (no pre-existing conditions, no health issues) who is struggling with covid damage to his organs. And of course one 24 year old who had a covid stroke, but she recovered and is asymptomatic now.
My antivax PCP lost some early on. He says Hydroxy, ivermectin, kumadin, pulmocort, and some steroid I forget makes it almost asymptomatic if started early. Wait too long and another story.
CDC should quit resisting Covid treatments. But..if they approve an effective treatment, then they can't have an emergency authorization on the vax.
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The issue is the vaccination can prevent the need for alternative treatments. But if someone gets covid they would be wise to consider them.
That kid who just died of covid begged for the vaccine, but he could not get it because he was suffering from the virus. I do not know of what they tried. It is sad.
And why is that? Do you really believe the government is sincere in doing trials on these medications or are they being suppressed because of?!? Note there are legitimate health care professionals who insist that they work... but they are being suppressed by the government to continue to push this false narrative that this vaccine is your only hope for survival... it isn’t.
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Scott Downey
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What i have read for hospitalized people is they either do nothing or in England give them heavy doses of morphine, which seems to me to guarantee they die, which might be their goal. There is no authorized treatments of any drugs for covid.
Palliative care for patients with severe covid-19 | The BMJ
I am negative for covid antibodies, never got covid, have known a few who did. I definitely did not change my way of life, I go to stores, everywhere, still interact as much as I ever did with people. I go to Busch Gardens surrounded by thousands of people. I will tell you, I just never get colds, flu, sick from anything, I almost never get a headache, nothing phases me, and I am 62 with type 2 diabetes which is extremely well managed, my A1C was so low (4.7) one doctor was mad at me saying I was taking too much insulin! But the endocrinologist real diabetes doctor was fine with it. I do have high blood pressure, so if was not for those 2 things, I would be in perfect health. Before I was diagnosed as diabetic, I applied for term life, and was told I was healthier than 96% of the general population and qualified for the best rates. Of course now, they would not say that!
I am alive in my flesh body because God wants me to live for now.
In Him we live, move, have our being.
About this body for example, He keeps your body alive even though in reality the body is dead, as in dying due to sin.
romans 8
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
Palliative care for patients with severe covid-19 | The BMJ
I am negative for covid antibodies, never got covid, have known a few who did. I definitely did not change my way of life, I go to stores, everywhere, still interact as much as I ever did with people. I go to Busch Gardens surrounded by thousands of people. I will tell you, I just never get colds, flu, sick from anything, I almost never get a headache, nothing phases me, and I am 62 with type 2 diabetes which is extremely well managed, my A1C was so low (4.7) one doctor was mad at me saying I was taking too much insulin! But the endocrinologist real diabetes doctor was fine with it. I do have high blood pressure, so if was not for those 2 things, I would be in perfect health. Before I was diagnosed as diabetic, I applied for term life, and was told I was healthier than 96% of the general population and qualified for the best rates. Of course now, they would not say that!
I am alive in my flesh body because God wants me to live for now.
In Him we live, move, have our being.
About this body for example, He keeps your body alive even though in reality the body is dead, as in dying due to sin.
romans 8
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
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I do not believe the government did any trials. That is what pharmaceutical companies do, not governments.
In other words, I believe your post is an example of misleading propaganda as both covid and the developed vaccines have become politicized.
I do know that we have children hospitalizations and deaths due to covid, and I know that young people are dying of covid at a rate that did not occur last year. And I know that those who have been vaccinated in the CSRA (where I live) are experiencing mild symptoms when they get covid while many who have not been vaccinated are dying of covid even after having covid last year.
I do not watch the news, so all I have to go off of is what I see where I live.
That is enough for me.
Obviously didn't try the cocktail early enough.
I also saw a kid who took the vax. 12 year old. (Part of a trial) Went from top of the class to mentally retarded in wheel chair in 48 hours. Having 20 plus seizures a day. Her mom is on an antivax crusade. Children's hospital diagnosed it as "vaccine injury."
CDC says she is just having panic attacks. There was no reaction to vaccine. You expect me to believe these demonic clowns!!!!
By the way. Girl never had a panic attack. Never had seizure. Never been retarded. Never been in wheel chair. She is now!
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So you are then assimilated into the fear freak culture! No don’t bother to deny it, you da man.
Actually the FDA in a sense does trials. They order, oversee them, and analyze the data to the point that they might as well have done them.
It's funny that they are now screaming about Delta. This time last year, the same idiots were saying Covid was a stable virus that would not mutate.
Did the people who had Covid develop antibodies? About 1/3rd don't. Has anyone died who had verifiable antibodies? I don't know that answer. I am genuinely interested. My doctor told me that he tested a lot who had Covid,, were very symptomatic, and had no antibodies. Also said he tested a lot of asymptomatic folks, like me, who had high levels of antibodies.
There is so much odd, conflicting data it's crazy.
Lol... well according to Jon, you are just propagandizing. Nobody ever gets hurt because he hasn’t seen it... or maybe he hasn’t personally experienced it soooo. But I’ve personally experienced it and for 39 years lived it every day and would rather have children dead than to have lived that life... but I know it’s up to the parents. But know this, if you vaccinate your kids and something happens, then you are responsible... because these pharmaceutical companies and the governments that protect them will just ghost you & leave you holding the bag. You will get no funding, you will get no sympathy, you will get no medical care, you will get no money to bury your child in the end. Been there and done that. So choose wisely.
Next step, a COVID vaccine for your pets.
Crazy like a fox.
Pet vaccine is ok. My dog is a nutt case anyway.
If they tried that, the leftists would go ape crap crazy. Kill kids is ok, but pets are sacred.
I am genuinely sorry about your family member. I have seen countless documentaries of vaccine injury. IMO its criminal!!!
@JonC . Got a serious question for you.
You remember the old ethics questions that were used on L E. And Military psychiatric evaluations? One was do you torture or execute one enemy combattant to save the lives of 100 of your troops/citizens? 1000? 10,000? 1,000,000?
The proper answer was no. No number saved justifies the immoral cruelty to the one. (I personally kind of disagree, but irreverent). If you answered that it did justify, you were not getting promoted. The same system that says it is immoral to torture one to save a million from a suitcase nuke, says it's ok to maim, cripple, mentally damage, and ruin the life of and even kill some to save the lives of many.
It looks like your side is failing its own classical morality test.
You remember the old ethics questions that were used on L E. And Military psychiatric evaluations? One was do you torture or execute one enemy combattant to save the lives of 100 of your troops/citizens? 1000? 10,000? 1,000,000?
The proper answer was no. No number saved justifies the immoral cruelty to the one. (I personally kind of disagree, but irreverent). If you answered that it did justify, you were not getting promoted. The same system that says it is immoral to torture one to save a million from a suitcase nuke, says it's ok to maim, cripple, mentally damage, and ruin the life of and even kill some to save the lives of many.
It looks like your side is failing its own classical morality test.
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I need more than hearsay.
But I am not saying who you should or should not believe.
I am relying on experience and figures where I live.
So I know 100% that unvax people are suffering more severely and dying of vovid (including children). And I know that vaccine people are having mild symptoms.
I know kids are having blood clots, organ damage, and strokes even from mild cases of covid.
Now....maybe it is the air where I live that is combining with the vaccine to help people- and maybe the trees in the CSRA is making the unvaccinated so sick.
I really do not know. But until kids start dying of the vaccine in the CSRA, until vaccinated people start dying of the vaccine, and until the unvacvinated stop dying I probably will not be persuaded (unless of course I'm one who dies of the vaccine....then I really don't care).
Basically the reports you offer contradict what I see in my own area. Do I do not believe your reports are correct.
Now, IF where you live vaccinated people are dropping like flies but unvaccinated people are not getting sick, then I recommend you rely on your observations and not what mine.
That is about as fair as I can be.