Obama and Islam

[OldRegular]

Why is it that Obama and his administration refuse to speak of the terrorists as agents of Radical Islam? It is true that Obama has "whacked" a number of Muslims with drones in the last 6 years but then Islamic terrorists have killed far more Muslims than they have those of the western culture.

I am curious what others think is the reason for Obama's refusal to call a "spade" a "spade"! It would be especially interesting to hear from those on this Forum who are rabid supporters of Obama.

 

[poncho]

Why is it that Obama and his administration refuse to speak of the terrorists as agents of Radical Islam? It is true that Obama has "whacked" a number of Muslims with drones in the last 6 years but then Islamic terrorists have killed far more Muslims than they have those of the western culture.

I am curious what others think is the reason for Obama's refusal to call a "spade" a "spade"! It would be especially interesting to hear from those on this Forum who are rabid supporters of Obama.

Been wondering about this for a while myself.

He often speaks of the need to combat extremism. Obama believes you and I are extremists and so do many in the government. This is apparent from reading their "terrorism" reports, google the MIAC report for just one example. Go to the SPLC's website for more fear mongering about "right wing extremism". Did you know the SPLC is training the police now? Yep. Google it.

Obama wants to combat extremism which includes our brand of extremism such as being pro gun, anti abortion, pro sovereignty and believing God's word over the "gay rights" activists word.

Yes to him and his ilk that is extremism. And they would like nothing better than to take our guns, free speech and right to peacefully assemble away and shut us all up once and for all.

Think about it. He wants to combat extremism. And to the people in Washington extremism = anything that threatens their hold on power.

Radical Islam isn't a threat to their hold on power. It enhances it. It gives them a boogeyman to use as a pretext to keep granting themselves, the spy agencies and the police more and more power over us.

To Obama and his globalist buddies we're the extremists and radical Islam is the weapon they've chosen to use in combat against us.

Does that makes sense?

 

[just-want-peace]

Does that makes sense?

More sense than all the distorted rhetoric that emanates from that cesspool we know as "DC"!!

 

[church mouse guy]

The Democrats, who despise freedom of conscience, now want to make a theological argument for their political cowardice. For example, Holder said the other day that the radical Islamic terrorism in Paris was a "corruption" of Islam (well, Holder is an expert in the practice of corruption).

The Democrat argument is a stupid pointless argument when you consider that the atrocities since the fall of communism have been all done by Islamists.

 

[go2church]

Republicans are saying the same things about Islam. Islam is fine as long as it isn't radical, extreme or fundamentalist, not just a Democrat way of speaking.

Also, that Democrats despise freedom of conscience is just laughable. The same could be said about Republicans fighting gay marriage or abortion. It is much to broad a concept to just wash over with nonsensical statements like that.

 

[church mouse guy]

Republicans are saying the same things about Islam. Islam is fine as long as it isn't radical, extreme or fundamentalist, not just a Democrat way of speaking.

Also, that Democrats despise freedom of conscience is just laughable. The same could be said about Republicans fighting gay marriage or abortion. It is much to broad a concept to just wash over with nonsensical statements like that.

Murdering the unborn child is not a question of freedom of conscience and neither is saying that sodomy is good. By the way, the Taliban has dancing boys but considers that women are property and Islamic mutilation of women is nearly universal.

 

[OldRegular]

The same could be said about Republicans fighting gay marriage or abortion.

So you favor the slaughter of the unborn {55 million and counting} and the corruption of marriage by sexual perverts?

Since when is the slaughter of the unborn a matter of conscience? In my opinion those who support this slaughter are without conscience.

Since when is marriage as the union of a man and woman a matter of conscience. Those who support giving the label marriage to the practice of sexual perversion are agents of immorality.

 

[poncho]

When it comes to killing government is king.

 

[OldRegular]

When it comes to killing government is king.

The total deaths from WWII is estimated at ~48 million, including about 27 million civilians, mostly in the Soviet Union {~10 million}, China {!7.5 million}, and Poland {~5.7 million}. And 7 black robed men are responsible for 55 million and counting with the connivance of a multitude of politicians and professing Christians.

http://warchronicle.com/numbers/WWII/deaths.htm

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These numbers vary significantly as shown in the following link which gives an estimate of 72 million and shows about twice the number of civilian deaths as the above link!

http://www.secondworldwarhistory.com/world-war-2-statistics.asp

 

[poncho]

Democide: The murder of any person or people by a government, including genocide, politicide, and mass murder.

In the last century totals 262,000,000

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

 

[poncho]

The Democrats, who despise freedom of conscience, now want to make a theological argument for their political cowardice. For example, Holder said the other day that the radical Islamic terrorism in Paris was a "corruption" of Islam (well, Holder is an expert in the practice of corruption).

The Democrat argument is a stupid pointless argument when you consider that the atrocities since the fall of communism have been all done by Islamists.

You're overlooking the atrocities carried out by Ukraine's neo nazi freedom fighters.

http://www.ibtimes.com/ukraine-death-toll-nears-5000-more-quarter-deaths-september-ceasefire-1757823

Oh right, that doesn't count because they're only killing Russian separatists for the EU and IMF.

My mistake.

 

[go2church]

Let me try again, I'll add quote marks

Republicans are saying the same things about Islam "Islam is fine as long as it isn't radical, extreme or fundamentalist" ,not just a Democrat way of speaking.

Also, that Democrats despise freedom of conscience is just laughable. The same could be said about Republicans fighting gay marriage or abortion. It is much to broad a concept to just wash over with nonsensical statements like that.

And I'm prolife

 

[OldRegular]

Also, that Democrats despise freedom of conscience is just laughable.

Actually it is not laughable. It is a fact. The leftist democrat mantra is that if you don't agree with them you are idiotic!

The same could be said about Republicans fighting gay marriage or abortion.

Abortion, the slaughter of the innocents, is murder.

Proverbs 6:16-19
16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Homosexuality is a perverted lifestyle condemned by the Scripture.

Romans 1:24-28
24. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

And I'm prolife

You can't be profile and support the democrat party which celebrates abortion.

 

[Zaac]

Let me try again, I'll add quote marks

Republicans are saying the same things about Islam "Islam is fine as long as it isn't radical, extreme or fundamentalist" ,not just a Democrat way of speaking.

Sure are. I don't know why all the GOP parroters on here aren't willing to admit that the Dems and the Repubs are saying the same thing, just in a different way.

Sean and Rush sent out the memo to make sure they say radical and extreme Islam long ago. And it's funny how I never heard political conservatives saying "radical" or "extreme" Islam until Sean and Rush and Boortz and Levin all decided to do it.

Before they were just grouping all Muslims together.

Also, that Democrats despise freedom of conscience is just laughable. The same could be said about Republicans fighting gay marriage or abortion. It is much to broad a concept to just wash over with nonsensical statements like that.

:thumbsup:

There's no need to tell them you're pro-life. As long as you're against what they've said, you're gonna be branded as in favor of abortion by default. :laugh:

 

[Zaac]

You can't be prolife and support the democrat party which celebrates abortion.

Told ya go2church. :laugh:

The Democrat party celebrates abortion. But those loving folks in the GOP celebrate greed, selfishness, killing adults, racism, racial prejudice, modern day slavery and war.

Might be better off just claiming Christ and letting them fight the political party stuff out by themselves.

 

[go2church]

Actually it is not laughable. It is a fact. The leftist democrat mantra is that if you don't agree with them you are idiotic!



Abortion, the slaughter of the innocents, is murder.

Proverbs 6:16-19
16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Homosexuality is a perverted lifestyle condemned by the Scripture.

Romans 1:24-28
24. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;



You can't be profile and support the democrat party which celebrates abortion.

Sure you can. I'm not one of them, but they exist. As to the rest of your post...uh, okay, glad the cut and paste features are working on your computer.

 

[Sapper Woody]

The Democrat argument is a stupid pointless argument when you consider that the atrocities since the fall of communism have been all done by Islamists.

Unless you count abortion, killing cops, senseless murders, kidnappings, the russian/ukranian deal, the US military going rogue and killing civilians, the school shootings, the rapes, the bullying until suicide, and yes (here it is, Zaac. Know you were looking for it) the unjustifiable police shootings.



Yeah, unless you count all those, I agree with you.

 

[OldRegular]

Sure you can. I'm not one of them, but they exist.

Where? In never, never land! You support the party of "the slaughter of the innocents" you support the "the slaughter of the innocents"! That is a fact.

As to the rest of your post...uh, okay, glad the cut and paste features are working on your computer.

Reading a little Scripture might improve your attitude. It will certainly improve your knowledge, if you let it!

 

[go2church]

Where? In never, never land! You support the party of "the slaughter of the innocents" you support the "the slaughter of the innocents"! That is a fact.



Reading a little Scripture might improve your attitude. It will certainly improve your knowledge, if you let it!

Nope, it's not a fact. I do not support the party that supports "the slaughter of innocents". I'm in fact a registered Republican.

Oh, here is a link to never, never land

http://www.democratsforlife.org/index.php/elected-pro-life-dems/pro-life-democrats

 

[OldRegular]

Nope, it's not a fact. I do not support the party that supports "the slaughter of innocents". I'm in fact a registered Republican.

I never said you were a democrat However, criticizing the Republican Party for opposing the "slaughter of the innocents" and "homosexual marriage" is strange coming from a registered Republican.

Oh, here is a link to never, never land

http://www.democratsforlife.org/index.php/elected-pro-life-dems/pro-life-democrats

Proves my point!