Obama Bows to the Russian Bear, Putin

[Robert Snow]

This right-wing hysteria is just more rhetoric. No matter what President Obama does, they will complain.

We need to find common ground with Russia, not confrontation like the conservatives here want. It seem they have never seen a war they didn't like, unless of course it is pursued by President Obama.

 

[billwald]

As long as the thread is now about parental wisdom . . .

MY OLD MAN had a different saying, "If you are so smart how come you are not rich?"

First, I am not rich. I found a "briar patch" that paid the bills and stayed at the bottom of it just as My Old Man did.

But second, it applies to some people on this list. If you are not as rich as you want to be . . . what is holding you back? All you gots to do is to work harder, smarter, or longer.

Boggles my mind how many "if only" people are out there. "If only the govt would get out of my way . . . ." "If only I didn't have to pay taxes . . . ."

All the people who became rich in the last 50 years did so under the same rules that I have lived under. We lived through the best times and in best place that the world has ever seen. Anyone who is a loser here and now would be a loser any time, any place.

 

[Revmitchell]

MY OLD MAN had a different saying, "If you are so smart how come you are not rich?"

First, I am not rich. I found a "briar patch" that paid the bills and stayed at the bottom of it just as My Old Man did.

But second, it applies to some people on this list. If you are not as rich as you want to be . . . what is holding you back? All you gots to do is to work harder, smarter, or longer.

Boggles my mind how many "if only" people are out there. "If only the govt would get out of my way . . . ." "If only I didn't have to pay taxes . . . ."

All the people who became rich in the last 50 years did so under the same rules that I have lived under. We lived through the best times and in best place that the world has ever seen. Anyone who is a loser here and now would be a loser any time, any place.

This is about the most retarded thing I have ever heard, seen or read.

 

[Crabtownboy]

MY OLD MAN had a different saying, "If you are so smart how come you are not rich?"

First, I am not rich. I found a "briar patch" that paid the bills and stayed at the bottom of it just as My Old Man did.

But second, it applies to some people on this list. If you are not as rich as you want to be . . . what is holding you back? All you gots to do is to work harder, smarter, or longer.

Boggles my mind how many "if only" people are out there. "If only the govt would get out of my way . . . ." "If only I didn't have to pay taxes . . . ."

All the people who became rich in the last 50 years did so under the same rules that I have lived under. We lived through the best times and in best place that the world has ever seen. Anyone who is a loser here and now would be a loser any time, any place.

Regardless of Rev's reply, there is truth in your statement. If you want to win at a game, say football, you learn what the rules are, you look at your strengths and weaknesses as well as the same of your opponents and you develop a strategy to win.

If money is you goal you learn the 'rules of the game' and develop a strategy to maximize you returns. Sitting around saying, "Woe is me, the government charges me taxes" or "a person like me stands no chance" insures that you do not have a chance.

My guess is that when I was young I was as poor or poorer than anyone on this board. I am comfortable now and do not worry about money. How did that come about? Hard work? Reading, learning, and developing a winning strategy. Anyone here can do the same, especially if you are young. If I were as poor now as I was when I was young I could not do this as there is not enough time. It is a slow, long, steady process with ups and downs. It is not a quick overnight get rich scheme. These almost never work.

But this has nothing to do with the topic of this tread. But some of the principles apply, especially developing a strategy and looking forward long-term.

 

[saturneptune]

How about the two of you getting back on topic. Start an insult the other thread. OK

What is your problem, besides being a liberal apologist?

 

[Nonsequitur]

I would appreciate a thoughtful reply and now just(SIC) a meaningless one-liner. Please respond with some rational thought. I will appreciate it greatly.

Sure. OK.
You are a communist. You are the enemy of these United states. Your kind should be rooted out of the world and not be allowed to teach our children, not be in our universities, and should not be in our government.
You should, in my opinion, go the way of the Do-Do, and not interfere with the freedoms and wishes of men and women who want nothing more than to live their lives as they wish, without government interference.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Sure. OK.
You are a communist. You are the enemy of these United states. Your kind should be rooted out of the world and not be allowed to teach our children, not be in our universities, and should not be in our government.
You should, in my opinion, go the way of the Do-Do, and not interfere with the freedoms and wishes of men and women who want nothing more than to live their lives as they wish, without government interference.

Hmmmm, so you want to do away with my freedoms. Oh well .................

Actually I am not a Communist. I am a Christian who takes Christ's teaching on how we should treat others very seriously.

 

[Nonsequitur]

My guess is that when I was young I was as poor or poorer than anyone on this board.
But this has nothing to do with the topic of this tread(SIC). But some of the principles apply, especially developing a strategy and looking forward long-term.

Wanna bet? I'll also bet donuts to dollars that you are well funded.
And as for your 'rags to riches', when did you decide that other people's money was the governments? If you make so much money now, why don't you give all of your excess to the government?
I'll just ask a simple question, do you own a home?

 

[Nonsequitur]

Hmmmm, so you want to do away with my freedoms. Oh well .................

Actually I am not a Communist. I am a Christian who takes Christ's teaching on how we should treat others very seriously.

Do away with your freedoms? Such is a nonsequitur to my post.
If you take Christs' teachings very seriously, then quit coveting what others have and quit trying to sponsor the governments attempts to take away what they have earned.

 

[Nonsequitur]

Actually I am not a Communist.

Really? You could have fooled every freedom loving American who reads this site. Including the foriegn people reading this site. But I really don't think you have fooled anyone.

 

[Revmitchell]

See some want to feign righteous indignation about opposition to government programs and refer to Christ when it is convenient but when they oppose programs they claim separation of church and state and Baptist distinctives. Very hypocritical and very pharisitical.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Really? You could have fooled every freedom loving American who reads this site. Including the foriegn people reading this site. But I really don't think you have fooled anyone.

I do not believe in a dictatorship of the people.
I do not believe in any dictatorship
I do not believe in the government owning everything.
I do not believe in the government spying on everyone.
I do not believe in a government that starts pre-emptive wars.


I do believe in governing by the will of the people.
I do believe in capitalism limited from such that industry does not become the dictator.
I believe in a government that helps people.
I believe in a government that goes to war only as a last resort.
I believe in a government that tries to find areas of mutual interest with other governments and thus maintain peaceful relations with them.

Now what are your beliefs?

 

[Nonsequitur]

See some want to feign righteous indignation about opposition to government programs and refer to Christ when it is convenient but when they oppose programs they claim separation of church and state and Baptist distinctives. Very hypocritical and very pharisitical.

I have to disagree with you Rev. :godisgood:It's not righteous indignation when some want to control you. It's the same c%*p that the commies give to make sure that you comply with what they want. :thumbs:

 

[Revmitchell]

I have to disagree with you Rev. :godisgood:It's not righteous indignation when some want to control you. It's the same c%*p that the commies give to make sure that you comply with what they want. :thumbs:

Notice I said "feign righteous indignation"

 

[Nonsequitur]

I do not believe in a dictatorship of the people.(You mean Anarchism?)
I do not believe in any dictatorship Good for you
I do not believe in the government owning everything.Then why you posts?
I do not believe in the government spying on everyone.To a point, just the ones who call/recieve calls from terrorist countries.
I do not believe in a government that starts pre-emptive wars. Oh, please.... are you one of those that thinks that we should wait another 12 years for Saddam to comply with his surrender deal? Try to remember, the liberation of Kuwait was a U.N. action. Pre-emptive?

I do believe in governing by the will of the people. You sure fooled me.
I do believe in capitalism limited By who, and by what authority?from such that industry does not become the dictator.
I believe in a government that helps people. No kidding....who doesn't?
I believe in a government that goes to war only as a last resort. Again, you mean after the lives that were lost that secured the first war? The one that 'secured' the way that Saddam gave up and promised to do what the UN wanted? Yeah, that worked out real well.
I believe in a government that tries to find areas of mutual interest with other governments and thus maintain peaceful relations with them. Yeah, I'm in agreement there. Quit killing us and we won't have to come to your country.

Now what are your beliefs? I believe in God. Communists have been shown not to, even though they try to make the people think that they do.

In short, I believe that you are a communistic, rabble-rousing troll who should not be here. Is that 'concise' enough for you?

 

[Nonsequitur]

Notice I said "feign righteous indignation"

Oops!:laugh:

 

[Revmitchell]

In short, I believe that you are a communistic, rabble-rousing troll who should not be here. Is that 'concise' enough for you?

Libbies try to act as if communism has not changed at all. But when I post their website no rebuttal is ever given.

 

[Nonsequitur]

Libbies try to act as if communism has not changed at all. But when I post their website no rebuttal is ever given.

They can't.
Cambodia, Viet-Nam, Europe, Nepal, etc. When can one give a re-buttle when the communistic government has murdered people?

 

[saturneptune]

I do not believe in a dictatorship of the people.
I do not believe in any dictatorship
I do not believe in the government owning everything.
I do not believe in the government spying on everyone.
I do not believe in a government that starts pre-emptive wars.


I do believe in governing by the will of the people.
I do believe in capitalism limited from such that industry does not become the dictator.
I believe in a government that helps people.
I believe in a government that goes to war only as a last resort.
I believe in a government that tries to find areas of mutual interest with other governments and thus maintain peaceful relations with them.

Now what are your beliefs?

My belief is that you failed American History in high school.