Obama Our Leader

[LadyEagle]

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[Dragoon68]

Obama is a leader of change socialists can believe in!

 

[LeBuick]

The "tax cuts" are another name for wealth redistribution. !

So now tax cuts, the single Republican talking point and the cure for all this country ails is wealth redistribution???

He is refunding you back your own money, how can that be redistribution?

 

[LeBuick]

Redistribution of wealth just like Joe the Plumber said. All the money will go to people who know how to work the system because they have milked it dry in the past and now the cash cow borrowed money to throw it at them again..

LE, I sure hope you're talking about the bankers who got the Billions because if you think someone milked the welfare system for more than what they got then you're really fear mongering... Trust me, no one is getting rich on welfare and they certainly don't get millions in bonuses.

 

[Dragoon68]

So now tax cuts, the single Republican talking point and the cure for all this country ails is wealth redistribution???

He is refunding you back your own money, how can that be redistribution?

A lot of people are fooled by these scams!

The "rebates" are not in proportion to what was paid - they will be much less - and what was paid was not in proportion to what was earned - that was much more. The only people that make out with the "rebate" scam are the ones who didn't pay much to start with. The same is true of the other "credits" and "deductions". Therefore, it all is nothing more than wealth redistribution implemented coming and going.

Real tax reduction means less taxation up front and it requires a lot less spending for government foolishness.

 

[Dragoon68]

Obama is a leader fools can believe in!

 

[rbell]

LE, I sure hope you're talking about the bankers who got the Billions because if you think someone milked the welfare system for more than what they got then you're really fear mongering... Trust me, no one is getting rich on welfare and they certainly don't get millions in bonuses.

I lived in West Alabama, where welfare abuse/fraud was rampant, so this is firsthand knowledge.

Are you saying that "hey, as long as you just steal a little bit, it's OK?

Methinks you'll have a hard time reconciling that with Scripture.

 

[JamieinNH]

Moderator note: Get your last comments in on this thread. It's on page 10.

So, on certain thread, you allow last comments, and yet on others you close them without a warning. Hum... btw, the thread I am questioning was on topic and there were no personal attacks going on...

Just posting out loud and wondering the difference.

 

[LeBuick]

A lot of people are fooled by these scams!

The "rebates" are not in proportion to what was paid - they will be much less - and what was paid was not in proportion to what was earned - that was much more. The only people that make out with the "rebate" scam are the ones who didn't pay much to start with. The same is true of the other "credits" and "deductions". Therefore, it all is nothing more than wealth redistribution implemented coming and going.

Real tax reduction means less taxation up front and it requires a lot less spending for government foolishness.

So it's a normal tax rebate plan like the one Bush gave....

 

[LeBuick]

I lived in West Alabama, where welfare abuse/fraud was rampant, so this is firsthand knowledge.

Are you saying that "hey, as long as you just steal a little bit, it's OK?

Methinks you'll have a hard time reconciling that with Scripture.

No, what I am saying is we're spending too much time and effort worried about the pennies and nickels that fall between the cracks but fail to see or address the big dollars being sucked out the door. I know to scripture stealing is stealing but if this was a wounded patient, I would suggest stopping the major bleeding before you get concerned about the minor cuts and scratches.

We gave bankers lump some payments totaling more than the entire welfare program.

 

[rbell]

No, what I am saying is we're spending too much time and effort worried about the pennies and nickels that fall between the cracks but fail to see or address the big dollars being sucked out the door. I know to scripture stealing is stealing but if this was a wounded patient, I would suggest stopping the major bleeding before you get concerned about the minor cuts and scratches.

We gave bankers lump some payments totaling more than the entire welfare program.

So...instead of dealing with stealing as a whole, we should only focus on some of it.

O....key dokey.

Chew on this:

In fiscal year 2000 (the last year for which combined information on social welfare expenditures from all sources is available) federal, state, and local governments spent about $1.01 trillion on social welfare programs. According to the Treasury Department's 2002 Financial Report of the U.S. Government, the total expenditure for social welfare in 2002 was slightly over 4 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP), the monetary total of the domestic goods and services produced by the United States.

Not to mention but the ill-fortuned "bailout" (which I'm against) is a one-time plan; welfare is annual.

Any other factual errors you want me to correct?

 

[LadyEagle]

So, on certain thread, you allow last comments, and yet on others you close them without a warning. Hum... btw, the thread I am questioning was on topic and there were no personal attacks going on...

Just posting out loud and wondering the difference.

There is a 10-page limit on the Politics forum UNLESS there are personal attacks going on or the thread is totally derailed or it is a duplicate thread, then it may be closed before the 10-page limit. Hope that helps.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=31012

LE