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O'bama rex: NO Nuclear Weapons????

OldRegular

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O'bama rex is pushing for the destruction of all nuclear weapons. I wonder what he was smoking when he came up with that idea. I know he is a crackpot but I don't know whether that is literal or not. It is a stupid idea since we cannot even keep Iran and North Korea from developing these weapons.

Does anyone in their right mind believe that Israel will embrace Nuclear disarmament?

However, the question I would pose is: What would happen to the United States if we did not have Nuclear weapons given that the population of Communist China is about ten times that of this country? I am certain many liberal/leftists would not care but I do.
 

LeBuick

New Member
O'bama rex is pushing for the destruction of all nuclear weapons. I wonder what he was smoking when he came up with that idea. I know he is a crackpot but I don't know whether that is literal or not. It is a stupid idea since we cannot even keep Iran and North Korea from developing these weapons..

Apparently the same thing Reagan was smoking, he appears to have taken a page from Reagan's play book... This is why we are wondering why the right is so worked up about his statement???

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090403/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_nuclear_future_analysis

President Barack Obama's startling call Friday for a "world without nuclear weapons" brings to mind Ronald Reagan's idealistic, unfulfilled dream of eliminating the threat of nuclear annihilation.

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/04/obamas-no-nukes.html

Obama, however, is not the first U.S. president to articulate a vision of a world free of nuclear weaponry. In his 1985 inaugural address, President Ronald Reagan said, "We seek the total elimination one day of nuclear weapons from the face of the Earth".
 

blackbird

Active Member
LeBuick

Commenting on the last paragraph of your post in quotes

I believe it was Reagon who "wished" nuclear disarming------but he always wanted Gorby to "go first"

Its like-------Lets disarm--------you first!!!!!:laugh::laugh:
 

LeBuick

New Member
LeBuick

Commenting on the last paragraph of your post in quotes

I believe it was Reagon who "wished" nuclear disarming------but he always wanted Gorby to "go first"

Its like-------Lets disarm--------you first!!!!!:laugh::laugh:

True, I will say this for Reagan. He got Gorby to tear down the wall... I recall hearing similar comments like he was smoking something when he began that quest... Never hurts to dream and there is no greater failure than not trying.
 

BigBossman

Active Member
I thought it was funny when Gorbechev started saying that they would reduce their nuclear stockpile & Reagan said, "Okay, we'll keep building ours." That started the arms race & casued the Communist Party in Russia to go bankrupt.
 

rbell

Active Member
There is a difference between "peace through strength," and "peace through capitulation."

One was Reagan's doctrine; the other was Carter's.

My money's on the first. The jury's still out where Obama's money is...but I'm afraid it's Carter's.
 

Alcott

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It seems to me too many billions were spent on developing and producing those weapons to tear them all down. Why not get rid of the clause in our treaties that bans detonation of nuclear weapons in space and build an Orion starship? The weapons could be used to power it.
 

LadyEagle

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Obama wants us to be a nation of weak wimps. That is his goal. I believe he really hates America, as proven by his actions in less than 100 days and his arrogance overseas and hateful comments about the US. 20 years under Jeremiah Wright indoctrinated him well.

Obviously, Pakistan, China, India, and others are not about to give up nukes. So we can give up ours and just be sitting ducks for any terrorist or any nation intent on destroying us? Well, that's what the Obama man wants and so that is what America voted for, that is what America got. He acts like he thinks he is the head of the world. Well, not just yet.
 

JustChristian

New Member
O'bama rex is pushing for the destruction of all nuclear weapons. I wonder what he was smoking when he came up with that idea. I know he is a crackpot but I don't know whether that is literal or not. It is a stupid idea since we cannot even keep Iran and North Korea from developing these weapons.

Does anyone in their right mind believe that Israel will embrace Nuclear disarmament?

However, the question I would pose is: What would happen to the United States if we did not have Nuclear weapons given that the population of Communist China is about ten times that of this country? I am certain many liberal/leftists would not care but I do.

He's not talking about unilateral US disarmament. He's talking about a reduction of nuclear weapons worldwide.
 

carpro

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O'bama rex is pushing for the destruction of all nuclear weapons. I wonder what he was smoking when he came up with that idea. I know he is a crackpot but I don't know whether that is literal or not. It is a stupid idea since we cannot even keep Iran and North Korea from developing these weapons.

Does anyone in their right mind believe that Israel will embrace Nuclear disarmament?

However, the question I would pose is: What would happen to the United States if we did not have Nuclear weapons given that the population of Communist China is about ten times that of this country? I am certain many liberal/leftists would not care but I do.

The apologizer -in-chief continues to display his incredible naivite...

just as N. Korea test fires a missile to prove they can deliver the nukes they develop.
 

Palatka51

New Member
Apparently the same thing Reagan was smoking, he appears to have taken a page from Reagan's play book... This is why we are wondering why the right is so worked up about his statement???

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090403/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_nuclear_future_analysis

President Barack Obama's startling call Friday for a "world without nuclear weapons" brings to mind Ronald Reagan's idealistic, unfulfilled dream of eliminating the threat of nuclear annihilation.

Well, there you go again!

I distinctly remember Mr Reagan suggesting a missile defense shield. Once fully developed (and it did have proven promise of working) it would render nukes delivered by missile, useless. And thus no need of them (ICBMs) any longer.
 
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OldRegular

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Apparently the same thing Reagan was smoking, he appears to have taken a page from Reagan's play book... This is why we are wondering why the right is so worked up about his statement???

Reagan just played a better chess game than Gorbachev. Don't read more into what Reagan said than was there.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Obama wants us to be a nation of weak wimps. That is his goal. I believe he really hates America, as proven by his actions in less than 100 days and his arrogance overseas and hateful comments about the US. 20 years under Jeremiah Wright indoctrinated him well.

Obviously, Pakistan, China, India, and others are not about to give up nukes. So we can give up ours and just be sitting ducks for any terrorist or any nation intent on destroying us? Well, that's what the Obama man wants and so that is what America voted for, that is what America got. He acts like he thinks he is the head of the world. Well, not just yet.

Sadly Lady Eagle you are correct on all points. You may recall that some of the leftists in this country were pushing unilateral nuclear disarmament during the 1980's.

Frankly I believe that each action O'bama rex takes show his hatred of this country, including bowing to the Saudi king.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by OldRegular
O'bama rex is pushing for the destruction of all nuclear weapons. I wonder what he was smoking when he came up with that idea. I know he is a crackpot but I don't know whether that is literal or not. It is a stupid idea since we cannot even keep Iran and North Korea from developing these weapons.

Does anyone in their right mind believe that Israel will embrace Nuclear disarmament?

However, the question I would pose is: What would happen to the United States if we did not have Nuclear weapons given that the population of Communist China is about ten times that of this country? I am certain many liberal/leftists would not care but I do.


Response by JC
He's not talking about unilateral US disarmament. He's talking about a reduction of nuclear weapons worldwide.

Read the OP JC!
 

Palatka51

New Member
Well, there you go again!

I distinctly remember Mr Reagan suggesting a missile defense shield. Once fully developed (and it did have proven promise of working) it would render nukes delivered by missile, useless. And thus no need of them (ICBMs) any longer.

Obama has stopped funding further research on this vital program. This is sure to give encouragement to our enemies to further develop their missile technology.
 

blackbird

Active Member
True, I will say this for Reagan. He got Gorby to tear down the wall... I recall hearing similar comments like he was smoking something when he began that quest... Never hurts to dream and there is no greater failure than not trying.

Thats what I thought of when I made the post

Of course, we all remember the time when President Reagan was fixing to give a State of the Union address

Bless his Pea Pickin' heart--------he didn't know the camera was "rollin'" ---- he stands in front of the lecturn---faces the camera------and says

"We bomb Moscow in 5 minutes!!!!!!!!!"

Talk about folks "fast" on their feet----trying to "cover up" that boo--boo!!!

I loved President Reagan-------I really did!!!!!!!!:thumbs::thumbs:
 

LeBuick

New Member
Well, there you go again!

I distinctly remember Mr Reagan suggesting a missile defense shield. Once fully developed (and it did have proven promise of working) it would render nukes delivered by missile, useless. And thus no need of them (ICBMs) any longer.

Reagan's defense shield was a huge laser in a plane that was supposed to destroy the war head but not the missile. Remember the phrase star wars? So yes he spent a ton of money on missile defense but his ideas and all that money never amounted to missile defense.
 

LeBuick

New Member
Of course, we all remember the time when President Reagan was fixing to give a State of the Union address

Bless his Pea Pickin' heart--------he didn't know the camera was "rollin'" ---- he stands in front of the lecturn---faces the camera------and says

"We bomb Moscow in 5 minutes!!!!!!!!!"

Talk about folks "fast" on their feet----trying to "cover up" that boo--boo!!!

I loved President Reagan-------I really did!!!!!!!!:thumbs::thumbs:

LOLOLOL... I forgot all about that. I was in the military at the time and there were many who thought we were going to war... If we'd of known then what we know now about Russia, I think we'd of called their bluff. They didn't have nearly the number or quality of weapons we thought they had.
 

LeBuick

New Member
There is a difference between "peace through strength," and "peace through capitulation."

One was Reagan's doctrine; the other was Carter's.

My money's on the first. The jury's still out where Obama's money is...but I'm afraid it's Carter's.

Peace because you're scared to fight me??? Is that peace? I guess it is for the big guy that everyone is afraid to fight but it must suck for the little guy...

I would like to see a peace through mutual respect so we have no tension or reason to fight.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Reagan's defense shield was a huge laser in a plane that was supposed to destroy the war head but not the missile. Remember the phrase star wars? So yes he spent a ton of money on missile defense but his ideas and all that money never amounted to missile defense.

To put it bluntly you don't know what you are talking about. Reagan did not define any system. Unlike the leftists he did not believe that the president automatically became the fount of all knowledge. He started a program that looked at many approaches to missile defense. The first successful defense was actually a missile that could hit an incoming missile. There is currently a system that uses lasers to destroy the missile early after lift off. That system is apparently being axed by O'bama rex.
 
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