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Obama's Flyover NYC

LadyEagle

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jQCKDUYswf9K9lMjX4oxtDxHVqXQD97RECD00

What was he thinking? It will be interesting to see the Obamanites come to his defense again.

There is no rational reason he would have ordered this. He wasn't president during 09/11. There is no reason for him to order a photo op in Lower Manhattan. So he feigns being furious, big deal. It was his order to do it. Perhaps he wanted to fly recon to give more info to our enemies under cover of a "photo op." He shows every day just how arrogant he is and how he hates Americans.


"Why the Defense Department wanted to do a photo op right around the site of the World Trade Center catastrophe defies the imagination," Bloomberg said. "Poor judgment would be a nice way to phrase it. ... Had I known about it, I would have called them right away and asked them not to."
NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said typically a flight like this would be publicized to avoid causing a panic, but they were under orders not to in this case. They regularly get requests for flyovers, but without secrecy restrictions.
 
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Magnetic Poles

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You guys are quick to blame Mr. Obama. He doesn't personally make every government decision. This was stupid, but it seems Mr. Caldera made the decision. I doubt he decides when and where pictures are taken. From HERE:

When told of the flight, President Barack Obama was furious, a White House official said on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.
 

LadyEagle

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You guys are quick to blame Mr. Obama. He doesn't personally make every government decision. This was stupid, but it seems Mr. Caldera made the decision. I doubt he decides when and where pictures are taken. From HERE:


The buck stops with the POTUS. Period.
 

Milhous

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Could be taping a scene for an episode of 24; the fighters belong to Starkwood and they are chasing after President Allison Taylor.

Makes more sense than anything Obama's administration have put forward.
 

Crabtownboy

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jQCKDUYswf9K9lMjX4oxtDxHVqXQD97RECD00

What was he thinking? It will be interesting to see the Obamanites come to his defense again.

There is no rational reason he would have ordered this. He wasn't president during 09/11. There is no reason for him to order a photo op in Lower Manhattan. So he feigns being furious, big deal. It was his order to do it. Perhaps he wanted to fly recon to give more info to our enemies under cover of a "photo op." He shows every day just how arrogant he is and how he hates Americans.

The article you provided a link to does not say that Obama gave the order. Instead it says:

The director of the White House military office, Louis Caldera, took the blame a few hours later. One of the planes was a 747 that is called Air Force One when used by the president.

"Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision," Caldera said. "While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it's clear that the mission created confusion and disruption. I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused."

Sot it was Caldera not Obama who gave the order. Of course Obama haters will still blame Obama. I find that amusing, sad but amusing.

Then, again from the article you provded the link to when Obama heard of the flight the article said:

When told of the flight, President Barack Obama was furious, a White House official said on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

Remember the discussion on thread titles some time ago? Seems to me this title is quite a stretch. Why was the fictional title created and the title of the article, Recriminations fly after NYC jet flyover photo op, not used?

 
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donnA

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Saw this on goodmorning america this morning and was horrified, how sick and stupid are some people.


He doesn't personally make every government decision
thats his job.
Either obama is in control or he isn't at all and the office of the POTUS is a sham, so which is it? is the president the leader in this country or is he not?
If so, he bares responsibiblity.
 

canadyjd

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You guys are quick to blame Mr. Obama. He doesn't personally make every government decision. This was stupid, but it seems Mr. Caldera made the decision. I doubt he decides when and where pictures are taken. From HERE:
It is not credible that Obama didn't know. His secret service detail must know the location of His planes at all times. Mr. Caldera could not have had the authority to approve this photo op with Air Force One without the knowledge of Obama and the secret service, IMHO

peace to you:praying:
 

just-want-peace

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You know, it was another POTUS Democrat (HST, but totally different from the Ds of today--!!) that had the famous motto on his desk, "THE BUCK STOPS HERE!"

As Donna sez:
Either obama is in control or he isn't at all and the office of the POTUS is a sham, so which is it?
Needless to say, it's obvious to me (and any common senser)which it is!
 

LadyEagle

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Why was the fictional title created and the title of the article, Recriminations fly after NYC jet flyover photo op, not used?

Because it was a fly over. Nothing fictional about it. Obama had to approve of it and it was HIS photo op. It certainly wasn't mine or yours, we don't usually fly Air Force One.

Agree with canadyjd on this one. Obama had to know. He is the epitome of arrogance. Poor people of NYC were running for their lives thinking 09/11 was happening again. How cruel. There is no excuse for his behavior on any level.

The Narcissistic Obama Ground Zero Buzz (figures per Glen Beck's show just now) cost the taxpayers $247,000 at a time when we are a financial crisis and people are losing their homes. The whole thing is so wrong on so many levels, I find it rather sad that some here STILL defend the indefensible. :tear:
 
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canadyjd

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The whole thing is so wrong on so many levels, I find it rather sad that some here STILL defend the indefensible. :tear:
And one of the questions not even asked is Why? Why did Obama need a public relations photo op using Air Force One and fighter jets?

Exactly what are the photos going to be used for? Please...show us the photos that were shot and tell us what they are going to be used for and why they had to be taken 1000 feet above New York City?

peace to you:praying:
 

righteousdude2

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Stupid and Wasteful....

Obama's administration acts as though they have little if nothing to pass their time. This was not only a stupid event....it was wasteful. We are living in a time where every penny spent is being closely scrutinized. I'd like to know how much money this bafoon spent for this photo op, when Hollywood could have done it for a couple of thousand dollars in an FX studio.

Instead we scare a few thousand people; waste a few thousand gallons of fuel; and send a message to Americans that goes like this: Don't do as I say....BUT, do as I do!"

Game over....Obama needs to get out his personal check book and pay the taxpayers back, IMMEDIAETLY......

Shalom,

Pastor Paul:type:
 

Magnetic Poles

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Saw this on goodmorning america this morning and was horrified, how sick and stupid are some people.


thats his job.
Either obama is in control or he isn't at all and the office of the POTUS is a sham, so which is it? is the president the leader in this country or is he not?
If so, he bares responsibiblity.
This post shows a major lack of understanding of how things work. If a janitor breaks a bulb in the West Wing bathroom, is that Obama's fault too? The President does not order all actions of the government. No one person could do this. It is not humanly possible. The President is the Chief Executive, not the one who orders every government employee personally. Good managers MUST delegate. This entire thread is a misguided slam by the typical cast of characters who look for anything to pin on the President. If you guys would criticize valid things rather than this type of junk, you might have a chance at winning another election. Personally, I hope this continues, since it drives the GOP further into obscurity.
 

LadyEagle

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This post shows a major lack of understanding of how things work. If a janitor breaks a bulb in the West Wing bathroom, is that Obama's fault too? The President does not order all actions of the government. No one person could do this. It is not humanly possible. The President is the Chief Executive, not the one who orders every government employee personally. Good managers MUST delegate. This entire thread is a misguided slam by the typical cast of characters who look for anything to pin on the President. If you guys would criticize valid things rather than this type of junk, you might have a chance at winning another election. Personally, I hope this continues, since it drives the GOP further into obscurity.

Scaring citizens of NYC is junk? Wasting $247,000 of taxpayer money for a personal photo op is junk?
 

Surfer Joe

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jQCKDUYswf9K9lMjX4oxtDxHVqXQD97RECD00

What was he thinking? It will be interesting to see the Obamanites come to his defense again.

There is no rational reason he would have ordered this. He wasn't president during 09/11. There is no reason for him to order a photo op in Lower Manhattan. So he feigns being furious, big deal. It was his order to do it. Perhaps he wanted to fly recon to give more info to our enemies under cover of a "photo op." He shows every day just how arrogant he is and how he hates Americans.

I like Obama but admit this was a very stupid thing to do. However, it in no way means he "hates Americans". As for arrogance, well you get that on the Republican side too.
 

windcatcher

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And one of the questions not even asked is Why? Why did Obama need a public relations photo op using Air Force One and fighter jets?

Exactly what are the photos going to be used for? Please...show us the photos that were shot and tell us what they are going to be used for and why they had to be taken 1000 feet above New York City?

peace to you:praying:

I agree with this post: Just what was the purpose?




It couldn't have been purposely and secretly staged to see how the people of NYC might react to this event.

(For those of you curious about 'conspiracy theories' or psychological experiments conducted on mass behavior..... The War of the Worlds was a deliberate radio program, purposely planned and planted to observe the guilibility of the public and the study of mass hysteria. :tonofbricks:)
 
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