Hey mman:
James 5:19-20. I have recently demonstrated that "death" is not the equivalent of "eternal damnation." Consider Moses who fell in the wilderness for his rebellion against God. Is he in hell? NO! He appeared with Jesus at the Transfiguration. Don't force your opinions on God's Word.
II Pet 2:20. Didn't Briguy, steaver, and I just demolish this foolishness?! Don't you read our superior proofs?
Acts 8 isn't about Demas. It is about Simon the sorcerer. Being tied to the bondage of sin is not the same as being under the Law of sin and death leading to hell. This bondage is a voluntary decision to walk by the flesh after salvation.
Although sin is wrong in any circumstance, it has nothing to do with altering Christ’s final payment for sin at the Cross. That payment is a done deal! But sin can bring some mighty unpleasant events here and rob one of future eternal rewards at Christ’s Judgment Seat.
Where in Peter’s scathing comment is there anything that speaks of losing one’s eternal security? Again, is being in the gall of bitterness an equivalent for eternal damnation? If so, then this is the only place in scripture where it is used this way. Being bound by iniquity is a rather common thing for all of God’s children. We don’t endorse bondage, but it is part of the frailties of the flesh. Thankfully, God has made a provision for bondage through the confession of sins. This is what the offended and perhaps angry Peter told infant believer Simon. The context dictates that Peter gave saved Simon some harsh but truthful advice for spiritual growth.
Wilkin says that “Peter commanded Simon to repent concerning (i.e., change his mind about) his wicked request so that he might obtain fellowship-forgiveness from God. Simon’s physical life was probably on the line. The reader would not be surprised should the text go on to say that shortly thereafter Simon died and was carried away to be buried, as was the case with Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5.” [Wilkin: "Repentance and Savlation, Part 4," JOTGES 3:1 Spr 1990).
Every conditional statement involves sanctification. You simply must begin using context to study God's Word.
Lloyd
I disagree!Originally posted by mman:
As far as the discussion of OSAS, there are many clear passages that refute this doctrine, such as James 5:19-20, II Pet 2:20, the example is Acts 8, Demas, and every conditional statement regarding the subject.
James 5:19-20. I have recently demonstrated that "death" is not the equivalent of "eternal damnation." Consider Moses who fell in the wilderness for his rebellion against God. Is he in hell? NO! He appeared with Jesus at the Transfiguration. Don't force your opinions on God's Word.
II Pet 2:20. Didn't Briguy, steaver, and I just demolish this foolishness?! Don't you read our superior proofs?
Acts 8 isn't about Demas. It is about Simon the sorcerer. Being tied to the bondage of sin is not the same as being under the Law of sin and death leading to hell. This bondage is a voluntary decision to walk by the flesh after salvation.
Although sin is wrong in any circumstance, it has nothing to do with altering Christ’s final payment for sin at the Cross. That payment is a done deal! But sin can bring some mighty unpleasant events here and rob one of future eternal rewards at Christ’s Judgment Seat.
Where in Peter’s scathing comment is there anything that speaks of losing one’s eternal security? Again, is being in the gall of bitterness an equivalent for eternal damnation? If so, then this is the only place in scripture where it is used this way. Being bound by iniquity is a rather common thing for all of God’s children. We don’t endorse bondage, but it is part of the frailties of the flesh. Thankfully, God has made a provision for bondage through the confession of sins. This is what the offended and perhaps angry Peter told infant believer Simon. The context dictates that Peter gave saved Simon some harsh but truthful advice for spiritual growth.
Wilkin says that “Peter commanded Simon to repent concerning (i.e., change his mind about) his wicked request so that he might obtain fellowship-forgiveness from God. Simon’s physical life was probably on the line. The reader would not be surprised should the text go on to say that shortly thereafter Simon died and was carried away to be buried, as was the case with Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5.” [Wilkin: "Repentance and Savlation, Part 4," JOTGES 3:1 Spr 1990).
Every conditional statement involves sanctification. You simply must begin using context to study God's Word.
Lloyd