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One baptism?

Alan Dale Gross

Active Member
There is "one baptism" that as in any other word read under the influence of one of the most fundamental tools of Hermeneutics, "if the plain sense of a word makes sense, then we accept it as expressing that initial plain common sense every time", unless the context dictates otherwise, rather than immediately resorting to making wild guesses as to any other possibility in the world that it might mean, strictly as the product of our imagination, for no reason other than we like the sound of it and so we also give ourselves permission to take over the place of God and to rewrite His Bible.

Yes there is one baptism
I think you cut off the salient portion of my quote, for some reason.

In other words, "if the plain sense of a word makes sense, then we accept it as expressing that initial plain common sense every time", AND DON'T SEEK ANY OTHER 'SENSE' (out of the clear blue sky).
 

Eternally Grateful

Well-Known Member
Yes, water baptism is literally a hands-on portion of God's Plan of having His churches self-replicating, where disciples are saved by the preaching of the Gospel, that newly saved person submits to the Unction of the Holy Spirit ("by One Spirit") to join in membership of one of His churches. They are then taught all things which the Lord Commanded.
no water baptism is done by another sinner who needed saved himself
That includes what a church is, what sin is, and How God Saves a Lost Soul, which never includes any reference to "God himself places us into union with Christ, his death and his body", or refers to a baptism being associated with salvation. Even when "baptised into Christ" is mentioned, there is no mention of that being a way of salvation.

"Baptised into Christ" can never mean "baptised and placed" anywhere. The reference to baptism has to do with a little clearer interpretation of "into", which is "because of".

We submitted to picturing Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection in water baptism "because of" everything about Jesus, Who we have now experienced in our salvation and Who we Rise to a New Life with in the Spirit to Live for Him.



No, nothing like that is taught anywhere in the scriptures. Baptism never has anything to do with salvation, since "Spirit baptism" is just a made-up error that's not in the Bible.

The Holy Spirit has never baptised anything, or anyone.


YEP. Some figuratively expressing a similar thing that is pictured in water baptism and "one baptism", as God Called it, so that noone could come along 1500 years after the Bible was written and claim that there are two baptisms, or worse, that they dismiss the water baptism by the Authority of God that God specifically Sent John to perform exactly like God wanted him to, when he baptised Jesus.
I was baptized (placed into) Christ. Only God can do this

I was baptized (immersed) in water a year later
 

Eternally Grateful

Well-Known Member
I think you cut off the salient portion of my quote, for some reason.

In other words, "if the plain sense of a word makes sense, then we accept it as expressing that initial plain common sense every time", AND DON'T SEEK ANY OTHER 'SENSE' (out of the clear blue sky).
so then lets take the plain sense of the word as it was used in the first century in the roman empire

If I do this. I see it as an action taken on me.

Seeking another to me would be to seek to see water where no water is involved
 
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