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Open Letter to the Lockman Foundation

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by eric_b, Aug 21, 2002.

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  1. Pastor Larry

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    All of the following statements contain either direct statements or indirect implications regarding Lockman’s commitment spread the Bible/the gospel.

    From the original letter:
    From subsequent posts:
    The way you have framed these arguments could (and did) lead a reasonable person to believe that you are questioning Lockman’s commitment tp spread the Gospel, insinuating that they were against it unless they could get money from it.

    I was actually trying to bow out several posts ago but wanted to clarify the “straw man” issue from my perspective.

    Again, my caution from the beginning was regarding attributing motives to people based on policies that you disagree with (whether rightly or wrongly). Words carry implications. If you do not mean them, then it would seem best to clear them up.
     
    #21 Pastor Larry, Aug 22, 2002
  2. just-want-peace

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    1) For negative OR positive;
    2) For initial argument OR rebuttal;
    3) Whether clarifing a position OR just trying to "save face"!

    My take on the original premise is that if you can get your stated goal met, ESPECIALLY with absolutely no cost to you, why aren't you following your intended statement (stated goal)? Nothing more, nothing less!
    No questioning of "rights", "obligations",
    "legalities", or anything other than that of an "APPARENT" (please note--APPARENT) conflict with a stated mission statement.

    Basically the question is. If they (Lockman) allow e-sword to post the NASB free of charge, are they (Lockman) losing money?

    A) If so, how?
    B) If not, what is the objection, since doing so would match the stated goal; at no cost even?

    Maybe I'm dense, (my wife would agree) but is not this exactly what he (eric_b) is attempting to determine, straight from the source?
     
    #22 just-want-peace, Aug 22, 2002
  3. lightkeeper

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    The Lockman Foundation does electronically distribute the NASB for free on their website. You should have done more research before your letter.
     
    #23 lightkeeper, Aug 22, 2002
  4. eric_b

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    They let you search by chap:verse or by keyword, but I don't see where they let you read it through. DO you have a URL you could post, if there's a place to do this? Regardless of this, distribution of NASB text without permission and payment will get you sued, and I don't think quoting that verse about lawsuits among believers would dissuade them...

    Eric
     
    #24 eric_b, Aug 22, 2002
  5. eric_b

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    I just got a response to my letter. Here it is, posted below.

    Eric

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    Dear, Mr. Burns

    We are sorry you feel the way you do about our distribution of the NASB in
    electronic form. I hope the information below will help you understand our
    policies.

    There are many commercial software publishers who sell the NASB in
    electronic format. Allowing the NASB to be distributed for free in a
    powerful program such as e-Sword would disrupt the commercial market. The
    NASB is available for free through the Internet for online reading and
    searching.

    In 1958 Mr. Dewey Lockman hired 58 scholars to translate the Word of God
    from the Hebrew and Greek into what was to become the New American Standard
    Bible. Mr. Lockman had to sell all 385 acres of his citrus ranch in order to
    pay the translators.

    The royalties from licensing the NASB to publishers, electronic and print,
    allow us to continue our translation work, develop study Bibles, Bible
    software, and maintain our English and Spanish editorial boards. Without
    this income the Lockman Foundation would have closed its doors after the
    NASB was translated and would never have translated Japanese, Korean,
    Hindi, Chinese and Spanish Bibles. We continue to use the royalty income to
    develop Biblical resources that serve the Lord. Today our focus is in the
    Spanish language where Biblical resources are very much needed.

    Again, thank you for your interest in this issue.

    Sincerely in Him,
    The Lockman Foundation

    [ August 22, 2002, 11:24 PM: Message edited by: eric_b ]
     
    #25 eric_b, Aug 22, 2002
  6. kman

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    Hi Eric:

    One other thing to keep in mind..regarding the
    e-sword add on module. It also has the NAS Exhaustive Concordance and the Greek/Hebrew thingamabob too. I assume those might require some royalties for distribution, electronic or print.

    peace,
    kman
     
    #26 kman, Aug 22, 2002
  7. lightkeeper

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    Go to the Lockman Foundation website (www.lockmanfoundation.org) and click on the "Free Software" link. They have something called the Quick Bible, which has the full text.
     
    #27 lightkeeper, Aug 23, 2002
  8. eric_b

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    Thanks for the info, lightkeeper. I'm glad to see that they make something like this available.

    Eric
     
    #28 eric_b, Aug 23, 2002
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